Father of El Al attacker former Egyptian army general

Debka Says

DEBKAfile’s Counter-Terror Sources:

Hadayat Belonged to Egyptian Jihad, al Qaeda’s Operational Arm

5 July: Hashem Mohamed Hadayat, 41, who gunned down Yakov Aminov, 46, and Vicky Hen, 25 – both from Los Angeles - on the 4th of July at the El Al terminal of Los Angeles, and wounded 7 others, is revealed by DEBKAfile’s intelligence and counter-terror sources as a Muslim extremist.

During his ten years in the United States, he was a secret operative of the Egyptian Jihad who maintained undercover links to the same Jihad cell in Brooklyn, New York, as the “blind sheikh” Abdul Rahim Rahman and Ramzi Yousef. Both are doing time for perpetrating the first attack on the New York World Trade Center in 1993.

Hadayat is also believed to have abetted a previous, contrived airline disaster: On October 31, 1999, an Egyptair Boeing 767 Flight 990, which also took off from Los Angeles airport for Kennedy, New York. After Kennedy, the plane bound for Cairo plunged into the Atlantic off the Nantucket Island, Mass. coast, killing all 217 passengers and crew. In a special probe, the US National Transportation Safety Board found that the copilot Gameel el-Batouty was at the controls when the plane went into its dive. His voice was recorded shouting, “I put my faith in Allah!”

The report held back from referring more directly to the Egyptian copilot’s responsibility for the crash. Our sources affirm that Hadayat, who lived in Irvine, California, 70 km south of Los Angeles, knew Batouty well. There are also indications that, in the years 1998 and 1999, Hadayat was in touch with a group of high Egyptian air force officers and helicopter pilots posted at the time at Edwards Base north of Los Angeles. They were there to learn how to install command and control centers in Egypt’s air defense systems, operate anti-air missile batteries and fly Apache gunships. Most of those officers were on the doomed Egyptian airliner after completing their courses. Although the long-delayed US Transportation Board report never referred to the presence of this high-ranking Egyptian air force delegation on the flight, DEBKAfile ’s Washington sources reported at the time that most of the investigators were satisfied that Batouty could not have seized control of the Boeing 767 without the aid – certainly the compliance - of those officers.

Two years ago, Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak exerted all his influence on President Clinton to keep the federal board’s findings out of its published report and, above all, the fact that a group of Egyptian air force officers was on the plane. He warned that citing the Egyptian copilot as deliberately causing the crash would have a negative effect on Egyptian-US relations.

The report therefore fell short of clear conclusions. Hadayat’s murderous attack on El Al flight 106 passengers points back to the Egyptair 990 disaster of 1999, reviving the many questions left open by that earlier, half stifled inquiry, which carefully stepped round any suggestion of terrorism. It also raises the question of how many sleeper cells the Egyptian Jihad, al Qaeda’s primary operational arm, maintains in American cities.

Hadayat struck the El Al ticket line on his 42nd birthday. The initial FBI inquiry found through records of his fingerprints at the Department of Motor Vehicles, which issued him with a limousine license, that he was married with at least one child, and had lived in Irvine for the last two years, working on a green card.

Since the attack, the possibility that he arrived in America as a sleeper terrorist must be seriously addressed. US investigators realize he was not a lone operative and are seeking his accomplices in such matters as setting up the hit, providing the guns he carried and intelligence on the security situation at the Tom Brady terminal. DEBKAfile’s Middle East intelligence sources report that early Friday, Egyptian intelligence officers picked up Hadayat’s relatives and associates in Cairo, to try and trace the identities of his fellows in the American Jihad cell.

Let's capture what Debka has up now:

DEBKAfile’s Counter-Terror Sources:
Hadayat Belonged to Egyptian Jihad,
al Qaeda’s Operational Arm
5 July: Hashem Mohamed Hadayat, 41, who gunned down Yakov Aminov, 46, and Vicky Hen, 25 – both from Los Angeles - on the 4^th of July at the El Al terminal of Los Angeles, and wounded 7 others, is revealed by DEBKAfile’s intelligence and counter-terror sources as a Muslim extremist. During his ten years in the United States, he was a secret operative of the Egyptian Jihad who maintained undercover links to the same Jihad cell in Brooklyn, New York, as the “blind sheikh” Abdul Rahim Rahman and Ramzi Yousef. Both are doing time for perpetrating the first attack on the New York World Trade Center in 1993.
Hadayat is also believed to have abetted a previous, contrived airline disaster: On October 31, 1999, an Egyptair Boeing 767 Flight 990, which also took off from Los Angeles airport for Kennedy, New York. After Kennedy, the plane bound for Cairo plunged into the Atlantic off the Nantucket Island, Mass. coast, killing all 217 passengers and crew. In a special probe, the US National Transportation Safety Board found that the copilot Gameel el-Batouty was at the controls when the plane went into its dive. His voice was recorded shouting, “I put my faith in Allah!”
The report held back from referring more directly to the Egyptian copilot’s responsibility for the crash.
Our sources affirm that Hadayat, who lived in Irvine, California, 70 km south of Los Angeles, knew Batouty well. There are also indications that, in the years 1998 and 1999, Hadayat was in touch with a group of high Egyptian air force officers and helicopter pilots posted at the time at Edwards Base north of Los Angeles. They were there to learn how to install command and control centers in Egypt’s air defense systems, operate anti-air missile batteries and fly Apache gunships. Most of those officers were on the doomed Egyptian airliner after completing their courses.
Although the long-delayed US Transportation Board report never referred to the presence of this high-ranking Egyptian air force delegation on the flight, DEBKAfile ’s Washington sources reported at the time that most of the investigators were satisfied that Batouty could not have seized control of the Boeing 767 without the aid – certainly the compliance - of those officers.
Two years ago, Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak exerted all his influence on President Clinton to keep the federal board’s findings out of its published report and, above all, the fact that a group of Egyptian air force officers was on the plane. He warned that citing the Egyptian copilot as deliberately causing the crash would have a negative effect on Egyptian-US relations.
The report therefore fell short of clear conclusions.
Hadayat’s murderous attack on El Al flight 106 passengers points back to the Egyptair 990 disaster of 1999, reviving the many questions left open by that earlier, half stifled inquiry, which carefully stepped round any suggestion of terrorism. It also raises the question of how many sleeper cells the Egyptian Jihad, al Qaeda’s primary operational arm, maintains in American cities.
Hadayat struck the El Al ticket line on his 42^nd birthday. The initial FBI inquiry found through records of his fingerprints at the Department of Motor Vehicles, which issued him with a limousine license, that he was married with at least one child, and had lived in Irvine for the last two years, working on a green card.
Since the attack, the possibility that he arrived in America as a sleeper terrorist must be seriously addressed. US investigators realize he was not a lone operative and are seeking his accomplices in such matters as setting up the hit, providing the guns he carried and intelligence on the security situation at the Tom Brady terminal.
DEBKAfile’s Middle East intelligence sources report that early Friday, Egyptian intelligence officers picked up Hadayat’s relatives and associates in Cairo, to try and trace the identities of his fellows in the American Jihad cell.
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Sorry, I thought that was what was asked for. I understand now. I underlined the word "was" in my post and people thought it was a link that didn't quite work right.

This article from the Times of India states that the guy was on the FBI watch list. But the FBI, in a news conference today, denied it and our media is not reporting it. Of course, I find it highly suspicious that the news media witheld the identity of the gunman for over 8 hours.

The words used is "isolated incident." Well, what's isolated? Does that preclude terrorism?

It is still terrorism. There are undoubtedly many terrorist sympathizers or jihadists who would be what we consider "loners". The call went out and this guy responded, possibly acting alone.

How many more are out there awaiting a chance to strike? All the 4th of July terrorist hype possibly solidified in this guy's mind, and he went into action. Subliminal thing possibly.

FBI = Federal Bureau of Incompetents = Forget 'Bout It. They thinned out the ranks of white males who knew what they were doing and filled the slots with affirmative action hires.

I just watched an MSNBC live press conference with a Special Agent Garcia, head of the L.A. criminal investigations unit for the FBI and the FBI lead guy for the LAX terrorist attack. Special agent Garcia struck me as being illiterate and unable to think straight. He's in charge; we're in trouble.

( Attack on boarding passengers - El Al's most practiced scenario! )

The shooting at the El Al counter in Los Angeles International Airport's Bradley Terminal did not come as a surprise to the security establishment, even if it turns out that the background to the shooting was not terrorism. The scenario that unfolded yesterday at the airport - a gunman suddenly shooting at passengers boarding a flight to Israel - is one of the most practiced by the security forces specializing in airline security.

The high level of security was not necessarily based on pinpoint intelligence. It was enough to hear statements made by al-Qaida spokesmen in recent months and to add them to the date - July 4 - to understand that Israeli facilities overseas, particularly in the U.S., were being targeted.

( Attack on boarding passengers - El Al's most practiced scenario! )

Maybe others were intercepted on July 4. Or chickened out.

Sorry for the duplicate .

There are some nuggets in this report though!

You bet. No watching Jennings nor Blather or BrokenKaw in my house. If caught doing it, you get no tv for a week.

Just a few weeks ago there was that red-bearded guy at New Orleans airport shooting at the ticket counter.

Thanks, this guy was a very scary Islamic Terrorist!

"A quite liberal friend of mine..."

You poor thing, Shermy! I know how that is ... extremely taxing on the ol' patience sometimes, eh?

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I must have been fly fishing, grampaing or I had a senior moment and missed this, " a few weeks ago there was that red-bearded guy at New Orleans airport shooting at the ticket counter", or are you as the Gas Guy, joking with a kindly old Grampa.

Yep, this comment, "Middle East intelligence sources report that early Friday, Egyptian intelligence officers picked up Hadayat’s relatives and associates in Cairo, to try and trace the identities of his fellows in the American Jihad cell.", sure fits into your Jihad in America index file.

Let's add this up.

An egyptian approaches the El Al counter on July 4 with two guns and a knife. (It is obvious that this guy is not there to buy a ticket)

It turns out he was friends with the Egyptair co-pilot who ditched an airliner with extreme prejudice into the Atlantic a few years ago. (A fellow jihadist)

The authorities delay identifying the perp. (What is going on here? Don't want to alarm the sheeple?)

There is some word that this guy was on an FBI watch list. (He should have been, in any case).

Sorry folks, this has terrorist suicide attack written all over it. Anyone who approaches an El-Al counter armed is basically committing suicide. Add up the other factors and you have another battle in the war on terrorism. Unfortunately we lost this one too, 3-1.

He could be involved in a network. Perhaps he was a maverick or "reverse Manchurian candidate".

We must remember that the call went out by the jihadists. I think they have hopes that loner types will respond. That's what they are hoping for imo.

You are very intuitive. Send this tip to the FBI. Please!!

You posted, Special agent Garcia struck me as being illiterate and unable to think straight. He's in charge; we're in trouble.

If he was hired and promoted during Jake Reno's deballing of the Former Bureau of Investigation and replacing good agents with PC pink silk panty wearing PC/Diversity agents/management, you saw the result of Jake and 8 years on the Former Bureau of Investigation.