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Ted Williams Dead at 83
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Posted on 07/05/2002 9:47:56 AM PDT by doug from upland

Baseball great Ted Williams has died at 83. More to follow.


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To: All
Thanks Ted for all that you did for baseball fans, Americans and we fly fishers!

Say hi to my Dad another fan of yours and a fellow fly fisher. Today was his birthday!
81 posted on 07/05/2002 10:25:56 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: doug from upland
My mother's all-time favorite ballplayer (next to Bobby Doerr, a teammate of Ted Williams during the late 40's and early 50's.).

How ironic in that had he not missed 5 seasons for military service, it might have been his record Hank Aaron broke in 1974 instead of Babe Ruth's. Figure 35 HR/season x 5, and he would have been close enough for one/two more seasons to break it.

RIP.... And Thank You.

82 posted on 07/05/2002 10:25:57 AM PDT by PetroniDE
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To: All
I have realized my error about the hitting streak.
83 posted on 07/05/2002 10:26:01 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: doug from upland
Williams was his own man, which, to my mind, is one of the best compliments any man can ever receive.
84 posted on 07/05/2002 10:27:17 AM PDT by beckett
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To: Rattlesnake Jake
Yep, the Splendid Spliter was a flying ace in both WWII and Korea.

Williams never saw combat in WWII, he was in San Francisco awaiting transport to Hawaii on VJ Day and was in Honolulu when he got his orders sending him home. He flew 39 missions in Korea and was sent home due to health problems and he wasn't an ace in Korea either. Williams had a commendable record of distinguished service but there's no reason to embellish it. In fact Williams wrote this about his four months in Korea: “I was no hero. There were maybe seventy-five pilots in our two squadrons and 99 percent of them did a better job than I did.”

85 posted on 07/05/2002 10:29:34 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: doug from upland
Click here for a great Ted Williams page
86 posted on 07/05/2002 10:29:49 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: cynicom
A gentleman

Umm, he showed his middle finger to the fans at Fenway...not once, but three times, to each section of the field. Could you imagine the flamefest if a player did that today? We'd be subjected to infinite FR posts about how baseball players used to be respectful, blah blah blah, players aren't the same anymore, I'm never going to a game again, etc. etc. etc.

Look. I'm actually not bashing Ted Williams. He was a great man (and the military service was actually more important than baseball). And quite rightly, people shouldn't wallow in the negative aspects of a good person who dies. But I find it pretty apalling when people basically turn someone into a completely different person, and compare Williams unfavorably to today's players, when he was guilty of much of the same stuff that guys like Barry Bonds get trashed for. The press hated Williams and so did a lot of fans, (stupidly, in both cases, IMHO) during his career.

Williams apologized, of course, the next day. And like many people who were basically jerks when young, he mellowed and became far more likeable in retirement. I actually think it's disrespectful to basically fabricate a mythical Williams that didn't exist while he was playing, in regards to his personality.

87 posted on 07/05/2002 10:30:11 AM PDT by John H K
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Remember the episode where Burt Reynolds has dropped his Weatherby 300Mag and is hightailing after emptying it into a still charging Grizzly? The guide holds steady and drops to one knee and stops the Grizzly at about 20 yards with a 10 guage slug stopper gun. It was awesome. The cameraman was getting jittery and about to haul ass too and the bear was charging uphill. I'd guess 1970 or so. Came on Saturday afternoons around the time of "Wide World of Sports"
88 posted on 07/05/2002 10:31:35 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Alberta's Child
Matt Williams had a good chance to break Maris's home run record as well. I haven't been back since the strike either.
89 posted on 07/05/2002 10:32:20 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: John H K
Oops. forgot that later in the same game, he spit at the fans.

And it's actually unclear whether Williams really wrote the apology next day; may have been forced to by the Red Sox or they may have written and released it without his knowledge.

90 posted on 07/05/2002 10:32:50 AM PDT by John H K
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To: MeeknMing
Citrus County Memorial Hospital

I was there Monday visiting my Mother-in-Law. I'm getting chills.

91 posted on 07/05/2002 10:33:31 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: EmmaPeel
God Bless You, Ted...now my daddy gets to meet you in Heaven :D

Yours and mine as well. My dad was a College All-American footballer drafted by the Giants in 1955 but had to go to the USAF instead. In any event, Ted was his main man even though Dad was never big on the game itself except at World Series time.

92 posted on 07/05/2002 10:34:11 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: doug from upland
One number stands out and tall, above the rest, and above what any baseball player has done since 1941:

.406

Rest in Peace, Ted.

93 posted on 07/05/2002 10:34:51 AM PDT by Jay W
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To: NYCVirago
When Williams returned from the Korean War, a conflict where he served as John Glenn's wingman, and was nearly killed in air combat (nearly burned to death in his plane because he decided to chance a crash landing instead of shattering his knees in an iffy ejection, a Ted Williams Day was held at Fenway Park.

A well-known Globe scribe asked "Why are we having a day for thisguy?"

I hope the Red Sox never wins the title.

94 posted on 07/05/2002 10:37:23 AM PDT by lavrenti
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To: John H K
Look. I'm actually not bashing Ted Williams. He was a great man (and the military service was actually more important than baseball). And quite rightly, people shouldn't wallow in the negative aspects of a good person who dies. But I find it pretty apalling when people basically turn someone into a completely different person, and compare Williams unfavorably to today's players, when he was guilty of much of the same stuff that guys like Barry Bonds get trashed for. The press hated Williams and so did a lot of fans, (stupidly, in both cases, IMHO) during his career.

That's a pretty fair comparison -- Bill Madden had a column last year comparing Bonds with Williams, and they were pretty similar both personally and professionally.

95 posted on 07/05/2002 10:40:07 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: doug from upland
I am too young to have seen Ted Williams play but as a Red Sox fan since around 1973, I have heard a lot about him over the past 30 years. Unarguably he was the greatest Red Sox of all time.

In fact, it was just a month ago that I took my son to the famous "Ted Williams" seat in the Fenway Park bleachers. For those who don't know, there is a single seat in the Fenway bleachers that is painted red. This was where the longest home run in the history of Fenway Park was hit - by Ted Williams.

Ted Williams was more than just a baseball player. He interrupted his baseball career not once, but twice, to serve his country during wartime. Ted served in both WW2 and Korea. One can only imagine what his statistics would have been had his career been interrupted. But Ted Williams put his country ahead of baseball and there are very few people in the major leagues today who would consider doing that.

96 posted on 07/05/2002 10:41:03 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: spald
I agree. Losing out to DiMaggio on the MVP award after hitting .406 is hard to believe. It is a record that will be very hard to top. Of course DiMaggio's hit streak seems pretty safe also.

Williams' study of the art of hitting will never be topped. Plus he put the reporters in their place. May he rest in peace. A personal hero of mine as a youngster.

97 posted on 07/05/2002 10:42:11 AM PDT by LaGrone
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To: lavrenti
A well-known Globe scribe asked "Why are we having a day for thisguy?"

Yeah, and wasn't it a Boston sportswriter who completely left Williams off his ballot and cost him the 1947 MVP?

98 posted on 07/05/2002 10:42:19 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: VOA
I believe Ted had one of the best on base percentages in the game, maybe the best.

He lost some of his best years because of WWII and the Korean War, which makes you wonder how many more records he may have obtained. He served his country twice when the call came.

99 posted on 07/05/2002 10:46:34 AM PDT by LaGrone
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
He missed all of '43 and '44, and most of '52 and '53. Do you happen to know what he was doing during all of that time? I'm just curious -- was he in training, or just in a non-combat zone?
100 posted on 07/05/2002 10:49:43 AM PDT by benjaminthomas
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