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U.S. Air Force: Israel has 400 nukes, building naval force
World Tribune ^ | 7/4/02

Posted on 07/04/2002 7:51:59 AM PDT by truthandlife

A United States Air Force report asserts that Israel is building a nuclear naval force meant to respond to any nuclear strike by such countries as Iran or Iraq.

It is the first time a U.S. military institution has stated that Israel has produced a hydrogen bomb. The number of purported Israeli nuclear weapons cited in the report is double that of previous assessments.

The report, sponsored by the air force's Counterproliferation Center, asserts that the navy can deploy any of what it asserts is Israel's 400 atomic and hydrogen weapons, Middle East Newsline reported. The center is located in the Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama.

In a report entitled "The Third Temple's Holy of Holies: Israel's Nuclear Weapons," U.S. Army Col. Warner Farr said Israel's nuclear arsenal has grown from an estimated 13 nuclear bombs in 1967 to 400 nuclear and thermonuclear weapons. Farr said Israel's navy could deploy nuclear weapons on the fleet of three German-built Dolphin-class diesel submarines.

"Israel will then have a second strike capability with nuclear cruise missiles, and this capability could well change the nuclear arms race in the Middle East," the report, which Farr said is based on unclassified sources, read. "Israeli rhetoric on the new submarines labels them 'national deterrent' assets."

The report said these nuclear missiles could have a range of 350 kilometers. Israel would try to base its nuclear naval force near Oman, with which Israel has informal relations, the September 1999 report, which was recently published by the center, said.

"The first basing options for the new second-strike force of nuclear missile capable submarines include Oman, an Arab nation with unofficial Israeli relations, located strategically near Iran," the report said.

The U.S. Air Force Counterproliferation Center was established in 1998. The center is meant to help prepare air force commanders counter the threat from weapons of mass destruction. The report did not deem Israel's purported nuclear arsenal as a direct threat to the United States.

The report said Israel's Defense Ministry has requested from the government of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon authorization for a retaliatory nuclear strike. Israel could also use Jordanian air space for a nuclear strike on Iran, which the report said could produce a nuclear warhead as early as 2004.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Israel
KEYWORDS: hydrogenbomb; israel; navy; nuclearweapons; wmd
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To: truthandlife
Dust yourself off Israel, and step up to the plate...
121 posted on 01/30/2003 8:09:09 PM PST by Libloather (It's time to defend freedom...)
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To: Quix
Am Glad God has scheduled a remedy to their unbelief.

Is there anything on the docket for Muslims?

122 posted on 01/30/2003 8:15:59 PM PST by Libloather (How about something in stealth...)
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To: Libloather
My understanding is yes. Someting very dramatic, massive, startling. My sense from reading the docs about the Moslems that I read was that the moves of God to show them the truth would be REALLY MASSIVE--WHOLE CITIES, NATIONS AT A TIME. We shall see.

Certainly there have been many communities where dozens of people have independently had dreams and visions of Jesus presenting Himself as the True God etc. And they have become believers at great hazard to themselves.

I don't know if the two moves of God will be roughly in the same time frame or not. I suspect some would say roughly in the same time frame. But I don't know. I could see it either way.

I suspect Israel will be first. But we shall see.

I haven't digested all the better docs yet about such things. But it sure SEEMS & SOUNDS like this year will be much more dramatic in general than even 2001.

We shall see.
123 posted on 01/30/2003 8:57:35 PM PST by Quix (21st FREEPCARD FINISHED)
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To: Republic of Texas
You must be kidding. Most Jews in this country are ambivalent about Israel at best.

I wouldn't go that far. While it is true that the "Israel-Firsters" are few in number,I think most Jews like the idea that Israel as a nation exists,even if they don't want to live there and they are patriotic Americans. They aren't alone in this,as Israel's biggest and most radical support group are fundie Christians.

124 posted on 01/30/2003 9:24:54 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: Republic of Texas
They aren't in danger now BECAUSE they have nukes. When they didn't have nukes, Arabs were trying to exterminate them every ten years.

Where have I ever claimed any different?

125 posted on 01/30/2003 9:26:31 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: LibKill
If I was offensive to you I apologize.

Not at all. No apologies neccessary. I pretty much chose your post at random to point out some basic truths about the way I think. These threads tend to get emotional,with people screaming "Nazi!" for no real reason.

126 posted on 01/30/2003 9:29:17 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: truthandlife
A United States Air Force report asserts that Israel is building a nuclear naval force meant to respond to any nuclear strike by such countries as Iran or Iraq.

G-d Bless Israel.

127 posted on 01/30/2003 9:31:17 PM PST by Abar
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To: Sender
Smoke em if ya got em.

!!!

128 posted on 01/30/2003 9:34:05 PM PST by Abar
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
They are certainly current with CQB house-to-house action.

Might come in handy shortly.

129 posted on 01/30/2003 9:39:38 PM PST by Abar
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To: sneakypete; Cachelot
BTW,what with Israel being your first love and all,don't you feel like a hyporcrite living here in the US?

Why don't you address that same question to the new head of the JDL - a former l.e.o. and Vietnam Vet, and the world's sweetest guy?

130 posted on 01/30/2003 10:01:26 PM PST by Abar
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To: Abar
Why don't you address that same question to the new head of the JDL - a former l.e.o. and Vietnam Vet, and the world's sweetest guy?

If he is a Israeli-Firster,I wouldn't hesitate a instant to ask him the same thing,and give him the same advise. He ain't the "worlds sweetest guy" if he is living in America and gives his loyalty to another country.

131 posted on 01/30/2003 11:17:45 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: truthandlife
"Israel will then have a second strike capability with nuclear cruise missiles, and this capability could well change the nuclear arms race in the Middle East,"

Why this moral relativism? It is not an arms race, it is war a$$ holes!!!

132 posted on 01/31/2003 1:08:56 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: Abar
Why don't you address that same question to the new head of the JDL - a former l.e.o. and Vietnam Vet, and the world's sweetest guy?

BTW,maybe you should do what I did,and go to the JDL website to check out Rubin yourself. He is NOT a "Viet Nam veteran" according to his bio,but merely a Air Force veteran. His main claim to fame seems to be trying to prevent Christians from having a Christmas display. Some hero you got for yourself,there.

133 posted on 01/31/2003 1:41:29 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: Poohbah
Reasonable theories with known history of some of the elements don't mean much to those with anti-Jooo conspiracy theories embedded in their brains.
134 posted on 01/31/2003 2:38:31 AM PST by FreedomPoster (This space intentionally blank)
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To: BureaucratusMaximus
"Why isn't Israel playing a much larger role in Iraq?"

Good question. Israel is "our friend and ally in the Middle East" and "our strategic partner in the Middle East", but we have yet to take full advantage of that fact.

Why not? IMO, we can't. Israel assisting the US in an action against an arab state would be seen as the US assisting Israel in warring against the arabs.

This is evidenced on a smaller scale whenever Israel uses US-made jets against the terrorists; big hue and cry about how the US is assisting "the jews" in "wiping out" the arabs.

Quite frankly, Turkey, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia are more helpful. Not to say that Israel isn't helping on the QT.

135 posted on 01/31/2003 9:01:43 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: sneakypete
BTW,maybe you should do what I did,and go to the JDL website to check out Rubin yourself. He is NOT a "Viet Nam veteran" according to his bio

I think Abar meant Rubin's replacement. Rubin is dead, you know. Murdered by someone who no doubt reads tons of websites fulminating over how "the Jooos" somehow have stolen all kinds of tech stuff from the US, because how else would there be technology in Israel? In short, someone you are on the same page with.

trying to prevent Christians from having a Christmas display

Far as I can remember, sc*mbat, you have been known to launch attacks against Christians. How come the hypochrisy?

Oh. Silly of me. That's just the nature of sc*mbats. And loons ;).

136 posted on 01/31/2003 9:50:06 AM PST by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: Cachelot
I think Abar meant Rubin's replacement. Rubin is dead, you know.

No,I didn't know. I don't keep track of what is happening with religious nutcases any more than I do cockroaches.

Murdered by someone who no doubt reads tons of websites fulminating over how "the Jooos" somehow have stolen all kinds of tech stuff from the US, because how else would there be technology in Israel?

POOOR BABY! Your only response is to try to paint anybody who shines the light of day on these treasonous cockroaches as bigots,yet you and your "ilk" are bigots on par with the KKK'ers. You are just to blind,stupid,and hatefilled to admit it. Was he killed while making plans to blow up a Palestine nursery,or was it just a car bomb in a street?

In short, someone you are on the same page with.

I don't associate with your type.

Far as I can remember, sc*mbat, you have been known to launch attacks against Christians. How come the hypochrisy?

Ahhh,yet more proof of a limited intellect. No wonder you are a racist. It's called "being consistent". While I consider all religions to be little more than superstitious cults orgainized to gather wealth and power,I have no choice but to acknowledge that in a free society it is only right to respect their followers right to practice their religious beliefs,as long as they aren't hurting anyone else or society by doing so. I will fight for the right of my fellow citizens to worship in any lawful manner they choose. It's called "freedom",a concept I'm sure you find both repulsive and scary.

Oh. Silly of me. That's just the nature of sc*mbats. And loons ;).

You should know if anybody does.You no doubt come from a long line of scumbags and loons. Nobody can become as blind,stupid,and hatefilled as you are in just one generation. When are you scheduled to appear on the Springer Show,cretin?

137 posted on 01/31/2003 5:41:38 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
Your only response is to try to paint anybody who shines the light of day on these treasonous cockroaches

The Jews/Israel are "treasonous cockroaches"?? Geez, you're really jumping out of your closet, aren't you?

Fly your flag. See, I found one for you ;).


138 posted on 01/31/2003 6:39:34 PM PST by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: Cachelot
The Jews/Israel are "treasonous cockroaches"??

No. I realize you have a limited attention span,but try to do your best to focus for a minute,ok? It is only AMERICAN Jews who betray America to benefit Israel who fit into that catagory. Nobody can call a Israeli that puts Isreal first a "traitor". I know this is a difficult concept for you to grasp,but why don't you stop one of those short schoolbuses on Monday morning,and ask one of the students on it to explain it to you?

BTW,these cockroaches are people that you would most likely look up to,so what does that make YOU?

Fly your flag. See, I found one for you ;).

I seriously doubt you had much trouble finding it. It's probably a family heirloom that came out of your closet. It fits your thinking so well.

139 posted on 01/31/2003 6:55:23 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
It is only AMERICAN Jews who betray America to benefit Israel who fit into that catagory.

And your ASSERTION is that the Israeli nuclear program is the result of such betrayal. Which is identical to the line put out by any Nazi site.

Really. Don't you miss LarryLied? He's just over there, you know ;)).

140 posted on 01/31/2003 7:12:28 PM PST by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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