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Mourn on the Fourth of July (EUROTRASH ALERT)
The Mirror ^ | July 4, 2002 | John Pilger

Posted on 07/04/2002 3:47:03 AM PDT by ejdrapes

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1 posted on 07/04/2002 3:47:03 AM PDT by ejdrapes
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To: ejdrapes
This man seethes with hatred, venom, and malice.

How wretched that must be. It's little wonder that he seeks some scapegoat--anything--on which to unload some of his self-imposed misery. You can't admire him, but you can't entirely blame him for aching to let go some of his hatred, if only for a little while.

What a poor, disgusting, wretch.

2 posted on 07/04/2002 4:26:34 AM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: ejdrapes
Cool beans. We can measure the rightness and effectiveness of our actions by the shrillness of the left-wing extremists.
3 posted on 07/04/2002 4:30:37 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: ejdrapes
"...SLAUGHTER: An Afghan farmer mourns for his dead children, killed by American bombing..."

Hmmm...

Four children, killed more or less simultaneously... (as opposed to being killed in separate incidents, days or months apart)

All the bodies are intact. In fact, they appear to be unmarked in any way...

Sounds like (and looks like) bullsh!t to me.

4 posted on 07/04/2002 4:35:12 AM PDT by DWSUWF
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To: ejdrapes
I have just visited the United States, and it is clear many people there are worried. And many dare not say so. Their views are seldom reported in the American mainstream media, which is self-censored and controlled, perhaps as never before.

How convenient that pompous Pilger fails to mention the Clymer Network, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS, LA SLimes, Washington Compost, etc., etc. and their love affair with Daschle, Gore, Carville, Begala, Donahue, Clift, McKinney, Slick, Hildebeast, Kerry ad infinitum.

5 posted on 07/04/2002 4:35:36 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: ejdrapes
By the way,
"BOMB FIRST, FIND OUT LATER: George Bush announced the start of indiscriminate bombing of Afghanistan"
If Kashmir is the base of operations of Al Qaida, as some reports indicate, the start of the indiscriminate bombing of Kashmir may be necessary.

The world will be made free from terror. If wretches like this Pilger and the other morons at The Mirror can't understand why, ignore them. In fact--ignore them in any case. That's what you do with ignoramuses.

Thank God for George W. Bush.

6 posted on 07/04/2002 4:38:20 AM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: Physicist
"We can measure the rightness and effectiveness of our actions by the shrillness of the left-wing extremists. "
What a great thing to say, Phys. I hope you don't mind if I quote you. --SB
7 posted on 07/04/2002 4:42:33 AM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: ejdrapes
John Pilger Pseudonym for Ted Rall?
8 posted on 07/04/2002 4:47:08 AM PDT by TC Rider
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Walt, this is a textbook example of what I was trying to get across to you yesterday.

Pull this out in 140 years and read it..........and then excerpt it for a piece on America in 2002; might you not be presenting a stilted view of world events and of America (especially her motivations for the War on Terror?).

Pepper a few more quotes from leftist Democratic "lawmakers", and boy goody..........you've made an airtight case, haven't you (you, as in the 'theoretical writer')? Do you see how easy that is to do?

The real point: Should such a piece be considered "accurate" or "complete" in its portrayal?

9 posted on 07/04/2002 4:48:27 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: TC Rider
John Pilger Pseudonym for Ted Rall?

LOL. Could be.

What a piece of feces Ted Rand is.

10 posted on 07/04/2002 4:50:25 AM PDT by JZoback
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To: Savage Beast
ICC anyone?
11 posted on 07/04/2002 4:53:18 AM PDT by Righty1
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To: ejdrapes
I have just visited the United States, and it is clear many people there are worried. And many dare not say so. Their views are seldom reported in the American mainstream media, which is self-censored and controlled, perhaps as never before.

Translation: "Everyone in the US made fun of me and my views, and no major network or media outlet would talk to me because they all know I'm a complete America-hating nutcase."

There is nothing stopping the ultra-left's views from getting out, NOTHING, besides the simple fact that 98% of Americans don't want to hear it, thus the media isn't going to waste time and space covering it, just to get a ton of harassing letters and emails in response asking them why they would print such trash. They seem to be doing just fine putting up their web sites. It's not our fault nobody wants to read any of them.

And there hasn't been a single example that I know of where an ultra-socialist lefty has been physically assaulted for spewing his/her venom in the US since 9/11. (In fact, the only loony lefty I know who's been assaulted was Robert Fisk, who was attacked BY AFGHANIS.) If they're paranoid about something that's never going to happen, that's their own problem, not Big Corporate Media's.

What Bilger Pilger and his ilk are truly afraid of is being called on their massive bluff, of being asked to back up their claims with evidence, instead of everyone just sitting meekly as they shriek and spew their hate.

12 posted on 07/04/2002 5:06:26 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: JZoback
What a piece of feces Ted Rand is.

What can I say, you owe feces an apology.

13 posted on 07/04/2002 5:26:22 AM PDT by TC Rider
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Damian Penny takes down the Bilgemaster:
John Pilger celebrates the Fouth of July...with another Marc Herold reference:

Out of sight of the television cameras "at least 3,767 civilians were killed by US bombs between October 7 and December 10...an average of 62 innocent deaths a day", according to a study carried out at the University of New Hampshire in the US. This is now estimated to have passed 5,000 civilian deaths: almost double the number killed on September 11.

Pilger, the last man on earth who unquestionably accepts Marc Herold's "civilian death toll" figures, also thrashes the Yanks for "[ordering] the Palestinians to get rid of their elected leader in favour of an American stooge" - the leader, of course, having been "elected" in a rigged vote in 1994, and who ignored his own constitution's requirement that he call an election every four years.

He says the Americans "ignored the World Food Summit in Italy" (just like almost every other major Western democracy, none of whom were willing to have Robert Mugabe lecture them on food distribution) and that they "blocked genuine aid, such as clean water and electricity, to the most deprived people on earth" at the G8 summit in Canada. (The filthy Yanks had the nerve to suggest that African countries should reform their economies and stamp our rampant corruption as a condition of recieving aid, the bastards.) Kyoto, the ICC...it's all here.

A stopped clock is right twice a day, and Pilger does hit on a few genuinely malevolent American policies, most notably the country's growing trade protectionism and agricultural subsidies. But it's mostly the usual Pilgerian ranting and paranoia...

...this may well be the last throw of the dice before the US economy goes into serious decline - as yesterday's dramatic fall in the stock markets indicated.

This means controlling the oil and fossil fuel riches in Central Asia. It means attacking Iraq, installing a replacement Saddam Hussein and taking over the world's second-largest source of oil. It means surrounding a new economic challenger, China, with bases, and intimidating the leaders of its principal economic rival, Europe, by undermining NATO, and setting off a trade war.

...and inflammatory allegations, such as the U.S. military allegedly killing Afghan children "in wheat fields and as they slept". (He attributes this to an unspecified "report in the American press," but he also accuses the American media of being "self-censored and controlled." Which is it, John?)

The Americans should not be free from criticism, even on Independence Day. And as the catastrophic, accidental bombing of a wedding party shows, the U.S. military may need to make some serious changes to its rules of engagement. (Although, would it be too much to ask Afghans not to fire their weapons in the air when they're celebrating?) But this is just a hyperbolic, barely-coherent screed, with no other purpose than to inflame anti-American sentiment of the most petty, destructive variety.

Next time the Queen's jubilee rolls around, I hope the New York Post responds with its own screed about all the atrocities the British committed when they still controlled half the globe. That'll show 'em.

Everyone should add Damian to their bookmarks list, IMHO.
14 posted on 07/04/2002 5:27:15 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: RightOnline
No one - absolutely no one - can be as ignorant of the facts as the author of this piece appears to be from a surface reading of his interminable drivel. The only other conclusion one may draw is that he repeats so many errors of fact, in some cases, and manufactures so many falsehoods, in other cases, that he's simply a liar with a hidden agenda.

Not that we'd expect anything like that from the socialist state of Euro...

Have a great Independence Day, my friend!

15 posted on 07/04/2002 5:29:18 AM PDT by logos
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To: JZoback
What a piece of feces Ted Rall is.

Howdy Ho! How could you compare Ted Rall to me?

16 posted on 07/04/2002 5:32:29 AM PDT by TC Rider
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To: Timesink
I'd like to see what the British press would saying if Parliament had also been hit on 9-11.
17 posted on 07/04/2002 5:36:57 AM PDT by gulfwarvet
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To: Physicist
So true. Morons like Pigger and Alexander Cockburn are perfect reverse barometers. I'd be worried if they wrote something I agreed with.
18 posted on 07/04/2002 6:15:18 AM PDT by driftless
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To: TC Rider
LOL.

Your right, Ted Rand is lower than dog sh*t

19 posted on 07/04/2002 6:27:08 AM PDT by JZoback
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To: ejdrapes

"Daddy tries to get in a few winks before another days starts after being up all night with the kids"

Hey, I can empathize...

20 posted on 07/04/2002 6:53:25 AM PDT by TADSLOS
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