EXPERT LINKS PORN TO WESTERFIELD'S SON!: (Feldman's Message To "The Damon"; Don't Leave Town!)

KNSD NBC ^ | July 3, 2002 | KNBC

[Freedom2specul8]

Thanks for the lesson, but I was referring to sites set up for illegal trading of child porn. You know..real ones that are registered.

So you were just plain wrong about my statement. Take it easy..

[It's me]

Are people today so ignorant they will believe anything the media states even when it totally goes against common sense and logic?

Yes.

[RnMomof7]

Someone needs to volunteer to go "undercover" at the swap club.....and see what high placed puds show up.

LOL LOL LOL

[dread78645]

Someone had statistics on an earlier thread that showed that accidential death of small children

Yep. That was me playing devil's advocate on why the ME ruled it a homicide.

If the van Dams were involved in even more drugs than we know of, it would explain the need for the coverup.

That's my guess as well. The vD's, Rich & friends are distributing coke/meth. Even in Southern LeftCoast-Land --this is serious prison time.

Accidental death, hide the body, dump later also seems to fit better than murder and dump.

Initially I was with the "accident" argument.
But now I feel that it's a case of reckless endangerment --if not outright murder. Due to the fact of dumping the body away from the scene, nude (why wave the PJ's on TV and the "an identical pair that belongs to a friend that sleeps over", a BS story from the gitgo). Doesn't every parent missing a child have former a police officer help them "interface" with the law ?

The lies and spin from this case make me want to retch.

[dread78645]

The lies and spin from this case make me want to retch.

I fergot to add that "the lies and spin" aren't comming from Westerfield either.

[MizSterious]

When listening to an attorney speak, it becomes necessary to pay careful attention to what they are saying.

In the opening statements, animations are mentioned by Dusek, but not by Feldman. Niether man states definitively that any of these "movies" are using live children. It might be because they don't know, or don't know yet.

But I've found that attorneys use very careful language. (And yes, the DA is an attorney too.) They can parse the language in such a way as to appear to be saying one thing--but watch every single word: they know how to walk the line and imply without stating something untrue that could get them disbarred. Especially attorneys like all of these--both sides of the aisle--who are true professionals.

If Dusek did not state--either in his opening statement or during the course of the trial--that these were live children in these "movies", I am going to question whether they were or not. Feldman did not say so either, but of course he has a bias. Dusek has a bias, too, which makes me wonder why he did not make more headlines by pounding home that these were live children, if, in fact, they were.

Like all of us, you have been wrong before, and I know the porn is your hot button item. I am sure it will pain you if it turns out this was the realistic kind of computer animation that pyx was talking about, but it might have been.

I do not know if they were real or animated. You do not know if they were real or animated. Neither of us has a leg to stand on arguing either way unless an expert comes out and tells us. You are going totally on your inner revulsion and are more than willing to hang him based on the porn alone. (Last I heard, the death penalty does not apply in such cases.)

If they were not DW's in the first place, it's a moot point. It would be a shame if they executed DW because of his son's porn.

[MizSterious]

"Then isn't it ok if I propose theories on how DW might have gotten into the house?"

I think it should be ok to propose theories on either side of this thing. That's what a board like this is all about--brainstorming.

But if someone comes up with a laughable theory, surely no one can complain if people actually laugh. The plastic sheets would not have seemed so laughable if you and others had not first said DW had a drunken blackout, and that it was a crime of opportunity. When someone contradicts themselves so drastically, it loses credibility.

The bottom line is--you want DW found guilty at any cost. Justice takes a back seat here.

Those of us still asking questions expect the prosecution to prove their case. If we don't hold them to that standard with this case, we can't expect them to render true justice in any other case, including some that might involve one of us. One day, it could be one of us crucified by the media and false police leaks (does the name Randy Weaver ring any bells?). If we give the ok for the DA to behave this way in this case, we've weakened the justice system a tiny bit more. Piece by piece, in very small increments, I'm watching this happen.

Kim, don't you know that killing a man just because you don't like him (while the real killer laughs at everyone) is not justice? I don't know what it is, but it's not justice. And that was what I was talking about when I said that attitudes like yours are (at the very least) unhealthy for this country's justice system.

Look at the evidence--I mean the real evidence, not the police leaks and the media hype. So far, they have not proven--beyond a reasonable doubt--that he did this. If the prosecution has an ace up their sleeve, they'd better pull it out now. I doubt that they do.

[MizSterious]

I think it's hopeless, but you did a real good job of explaining. It's just that you can lead a critter to water, but no way on this good earth can you force them to drink it.

[Freedom2specul8]

Your posts are appreciated...and they deserve more thought than I have time to give them..so I'll answer them when I get back on line. Cya later

[pyx]

I think it's hopeless,

I think you might be correct. Sheesh.

[winodog]

Or maybe she got into the VD's stash and for attention or curiousity she did some and overdosed. Someone knew that if the body wasnt found for a certain amount of time, the drugs would not show in the system.

So they(could be just Damon but I would imagine he had some help) stored her somewhere till they knew it was time to find her. Hence the strange phone call we have heard the VD's recieved and the "tip" the searcher fella had to go back to a spot that had already been searched.

[Valpal1]

Yes, but on some of the disks or zips, the file names used prefixes identical to those used by DAW for business files. I don't think Neal was downloading and renaming files using those prefixes.

That teenage boys will surf porn, I have no doubt. That Neal has been creating a personal collection on zips and cds stored in his dad's office since he was 14? NIMO.

The son may have surfed porn sites, but the collection belongs to his father, who admitted to owning it to LE.

[Valpal1]

The DA would look bad by bringing the son in.

The defense has already brought the boy in, by using an expert witness to implicate him as an alternative suspect in the child porn charge. How come that doesn't make Feldman look bad? Just wondering.

[hoosiermama]

Mentioning his name is not as damaging as "Bringing him in" physically. Physically--watching his embarrassment etc.... was what I was referring to.

[Valpal1]

Toxicology tests on body tissue were all negative.

[Politicalmom]

Feldman doesn't look bad, because the man's LIFE is at stake!!!

[pyx]

New thread in #1168.

[pyx]

New thread in #1168

[pyx]

New thread in #1168

[NatureGirl]

I have a question for you. Much has been made about that "IEA" prefix on DW's files. I did a google search for IEA, and for IEA prefix. Two things I noted:

Lots of engineering groups use the letters "IEA". DW is an engineer. That might explain why some of his business files have that prefix. They could be related to some organization that he belongs to.

However, there was also a lot of computer-ese about iea as a prefix - a signal to end data transfer ("isa" = start, "iea" = end). Binaries were also mentioned. Would you know if this is something that would be common to downloaded binary files, that they would use the prefix "iea"??