EXPERT LINKS PORN TO WESTERFIELD'S SON!: (Feldman's Message To "The Damon"; Don't Leave Town!)

KNSD NBC ^ | July 3, 2002 | KNBC

[Jaded]

Morning Kimmie, dear. I hafta work for a while today, I'm waiting on my Starbucks delivery. In the mean time I'll start off. Last night I was helping look for an article where Damon said he wasn't home what I found was:

One of the earliest articles reports that the party started at 2:30 and was over at 4:00. The impression was given that both doors were found open at 4. Hmmm why was the timeline changed? No the reporters did not mis-understand.

The timeline began to change the first week. In the early articles one said Damon woke up at 1:30, no mention of alarm light.

The Australian article, PAY ATTENTION SLEEPY CAMPERS, stated that Damon was ENTERTAINING SOMEONE AT HOME . Must have overlooked that tid bit.

There were also rumors, on FR and abroad, that perhaps the crime actually occurred in the master bedroom. HMMM. So there is still the possibility that she walked in on daddy and someone. Who is that someone? The local media seemed reluctant, and still does, to print such stories even if they are true.

All this spinning is making me dizzy.

[MizSterious]

"they're cheao thin fitted plastic sheets and um, are we trying to suppress theories and opinions now? Surely not."

What he "suppressing?" Isn't it enough just to say you disagree with him? You expressed your opinion. He expressed his. He did not say--anywhere that I saw--that your post should be pulled, or that your membership should be threatened. He simply disagreed.

Now, getting threads, messages and memberships pulled--that's what I call suppression. If not opression.

[Jaded]

Wonder what other evidence was cleaned up? In the case of Jahi Turner, his parents were put up in a hotel by SDPD for a week while their apartment, the crime scene, was processed. What's up with that? Why the glaring differences? Jahi was reported to be missing from a part. How odd.

[Freedom2specul8]

Sorry to hear you have to work... :( Nice to have delicious coffee delivered! Yum yum..

The theory that the parents did it however they did it, individually or as a team needs more meat..more something to back it up. What is the source for the tabloid stories? I mean, who's to say they didn't just make it up?

[Lucky]

See my post #856. Master bedroom was never checked was it?

[spectre]

Excellent questions.

Danielle was not a "sleep-walker". Damon suggested this as one of the possible "alibis" he put forth on the first day of her disapperance.

We later learn, her sleepwalking was explained and limited to a "potty dance" around the parents bed, signaling she had to go to the bathroom. (By his time, DW was the prime suspect..no need to prove she sleep-walked out of the house.) Yes, Damon was quick to ask a neighbor if he saw Danielle because she "sleep-walked"..THIS was a set-up by Damon, in case the cops didn't buy his other charade of the "open door" and magnet display..Damon had all his bases covered. HE WAS the victim..afterall...yeah, right. Sleepwalking? Hardly.

I don't think Danielle was killed in her bedroom. The dog bed, Layla and the carpet cleaning should all be reexamined. But the carpet is now all replaced, and the walls repainted...whoops!

Looks like Westerfield wasn't the real Clean and Neat Freak...seems like the Van Dams could give this guy some competition there...grins.

sw

[Freedom2specul8]

Telling a fellow poster to forget the opinion of someone else, listen to mine is an attempt to control, I think it's wrong and wouldn't dream of getting on here and saying "don't listen to mizs, she's full of beans". It's improper..

[MizSterious]

Jamesons Webbsleuths members might have seen this one, but Freepers might not have.

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"The lynch mob theory"
Posted by jameson on Jul-05-02 at 08:45 AM (EST)

as i see it, of course with commentary

DW leaves Dads cafe, at sometime between 10:30 and midnight. He is sexually frustrated because he didn't get any attention from Brenda (who isn't his type - too heavy) or Barbara or Denise. But he doesn't go to another bar or the streets for another chance to get laid (he could have paid for it)- - no, he is angry and determined to take it out on a 7 year old child who sold him Girl Scout cookies the week before.

Damon, ever helpful, has tucked the kids in bed and retired to his room with the big dog, shuts the door and turns on the TV.

So DW sneaks into the van Dam home through the unlocked garage door. He shut the door behind him or look to see if he has tripped any alarm. Nope, just goes in the garage and leaves that door open.

Now, what time was this? Probably before the 1:30 dog potty dance because after that we have Damon in his room with the door open waiting for Brenda and her friends to come home. Not asleep, awake.(Damon took the dog from his room and missed the blinking red light on the burglar alarm? Didn't have any idea anyone was in the house and the dog went right out to attend to his business, didn't seem interested in any strange smells in the house.)

According to the persecutors, DW found himself unable to just grab the child and leave - - either Damon got up with the dog or Brenda came home - so we have the break-in somewhere between 1 and 2. DW would know Brenda would be home any time - - but - - well, with that testosterone rush, he just didn't care.

I see no way he hid in Danielle's closet - too full according to the crime scene photos - so he either remained in the garage with that open door or just stood in Danielle's room and didn't drop a single hair or leave a single print or fiber. He pretended he was the Tin Man.

He had to hear the people in the house - busy house. Finally it is quiet and he grabs
Danielle. She puts up NO fight and the 220 pound man silently takes the 60 pound child out the sliding glass door into the backyard - the door furthest from his own house. (This despite the fact that the front door is pretty hidden from the road and would have been just as safe as exiting the gate On the side.)

It is very cold but she doesn't wake or cry out. DW is very lucky.

He takes her to his house, no one sees him - not even Mrs. Kravitz who can't sleep and looks out windows. (I know she couldn't see the front of the van Dam house - but if DW can look out his bathroom that faces the REAR of his house, faces the Hoeff house, and he can see in a backyard across the street and two doors away to the left, then she should have been able to see DW carrying that child across Briarleaf. The views in SD are different from in Kansas.)

He took her upstairs and put her in his bed - - she lost a hair - but she didn't leave any fibers from her pajamas so apparently they were off by then. Still, he didn't assault her there - no blood. He didn't let her touch anything, no prints. She wasn't bound or gagged, just obedient.

He waited until 8 in the morning, trusting the family would sleep until noon, I guess. Then put her in the SUV where she did NOT lose any hair or leave any prints and took her to the RV.

Then the drive back to Sabre Swings. Maybe he thought he could sneak her back into her bed? Aw.... cop cars, may as well go camping with her. Stock the RV, fill it with water....

Drives to the Strand, couldn't find what he wanted on TV and wanted his PDA (maybe there were instructions in the PDA - - how to dump a body?) So back home.
Cops still there. The cops don't approach him so he talks to his neighbor, checks his pool, leaves his card, gets back in the motor home and takes off for Glamis.

Now, stuck in Glamis he is - - the witnesses have two people. One DW has the drapes open and chats
it up with a bunch of people, any of whom might have at anytime said, hey is it all right if I check out your motor home? Those people have photos that show the drapes open.
The other DW had the RV closed up and was strange, he mumbled to himself (after being told the tow was $150.00, I would mumble too) and didn't remember his leveling boards.
(Dan Conklin liked being a witness - - he gave several interviews to media before being gagged.)

At some point in all this, the prosecution claims he killed Danielle - he didn't ever tie her up - no bruises on her wrists. He didn't beat her about the face (no bruises there) - he might have pulled out her teeth - - but she never fought him - - she never clawed him or fought him enough to get any damage to her hands.

Then, according to prosecutors, DW took that 35 foot motor home to Dehesa, pulls over and leaves her naked body under an oak tree. He does this without picking up any shrubs, dirt, etc., from Dehesa, and without leaving any evidence of himself with the body.

Finally, DW went home and let the cops search his house, bring dogs in the RV and they didn't pick up her scent - - luck again!

He goes in for hours and hours of interrogation with space heaters on and people denying him access to water, a phone...

He doesn't confess....
They have no evidence putting him in Danielle's house
They have no evidence he is a violent person
they have no evidence he hurt that child
They have no evidence Danielle was with DW that weekend.
They can't put DW at the Dehesa site

Yep - - that's the case.

Ready to execute DW for that story?

PLEASE, come buy my oceanfront property at the foothills of the Appalachian Mountains.

Source

[MizSterious]

Why not? You do it all the time. And add smilies and LOLs, which doesn't change the content. DS to my knowledge did not try to get your message or the thread pulled. He just disagreed. Everyone here does that in one form or another, and lots of people do, indeed, tell others that their theory is the best one. Your most recent theory, plain and simple, is so full of holes that it ain't gonna float. You might have another one that's better, though.

[Freedom2specul8]

I have NEVER said to anyone on the threads to ignore someone elses opinion. I'm just going to agree to disagree.... Adding smilies and lols are reflectives of real time mood. You have misinterpreted my intentions on numerous occassions. That's easy to do..I'm sure I misinterpreted your attitude or intention. I apologize in fact for the times I have. A simple freepmail to figure out intentions in the past would have sufficed.

Am reading the post from J...

[Jaded]

Hey there's a thought. Freep the Court house. Freep Mountain Pass Road. Hey road trip! Road trip! LOL

[Jaded]

You mean Layla? Layla the barkless-peeing-wonderdog? We had a weimaraner once, very sturdy sort. I really do wonder how she got a bloody nose? Was she infact protecting Danielle from someone, and the someone took care of the dog with say one swift kick?

[Freedom2specul8]

"According to the persecutors, DW found himself unable to just grab the child and leave - - either Damon got up with the dog or Brenda came home - so we have the break-in somewhere between 1 and 2. DW would know Brenda would be home any time - - but - - well, with that testosterone rush, he just didn't care. "

Where have prosecutors said that DW found himself trapped? I didn't read that in the opening statement at least.. Do you know?

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"I see no way he hid in Danielle's closet -" agree

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"He had to hear the people in the house - busy house. Finally it is quiet and he grabs Danielle......She puts up NO fight....He takes her to his house, no one sees him - not even Mrs. Kravitz who can't sleep and looks out windows "
Judging from what little we know, one would expect the house to have been quiet at somepoint afte rthe kids went in bed. This theory is he snuck in BEFORE 10pm? Doesn't seem too likely..but I suppose anything is possible. We don't know if she didn't put up a fight..may she was gagged or something..and that's why her teeth got knocked loose and DVD, after a few beers could have been snoozing deeply cuz of it. Drunks tend to sleep deeper..

It's very possible no one saw him carry her.

He may not have taken her to the master bedroom..he could have carried her hairs himself...

I have to go for awhile..will check in later.

[Jaded]

There is also no evidence he bought a plastic matress cover. Actually, dear, there is NO evidence he was in their house. I will concede that there IS evidence that Danielle was in his RV, just not that weekend.

As far as I'm concerned, I didn't do it...
Does that seem strange to you? It's normal to me.

[Jaded]

There are UNIDENTIFIED prints from the RV, 16 cards. Jeffrey Graham lifted them 4/17. Wonder how many of them are children? Graham still didn't dust the entire RV. Go figger.

[hoosiermama]

Still think Danielle left the house on her own (ran away). Her diary entry doubting her father' love says alot.

[Jaded]

With a tip phone into the LRC on 2/26. Yeppers. Guess David called from his jail cell. Okay.

[Jaded]

You mean like the changing timeline story? IMO, I don't think Brenda was involved. She may suspect, but I think the deed was done before she got home, if her sweetie done it. Then who do those darn unID'ed prints belong to. Don't you just hate it when there is evidence left laying around?

[Freedom2specul8]

I can't disagree with your #874..but that's the whole issue.. If he indeed did kill her in the MH..the plastic sheet theory seems the most logical way to explain the lack of body fluids. as smart as he was, there's no way he would not ''protect'' the mattress..IF that's where the murder took place. He could have just transported her to a different crime scene...

Will check in later, thanks. Did you get your coffee yet? You must have by now...your post made me think harder. :)

[Jaded]

That was one of the stories circulating in San Diego, or Sodom Diego (Sodom Springs),(which ever you think more accurate)that the crime scene was actually the MB.