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EXPERT LINKS PORN TO WESTERFIELD'S SON!: (Feldman's Message To "The Damon"; Don't Leave Town!)
KNSD NBC ^ | July 3, 2002 | KNBC

Posted on 07/03/2002 3:36:43 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: MizSterious
Have been following the threads....a couple of questons...

1. Would DVD have had enough time to dispose of the body whre it was found and still be there when BVD returned?

2. Is it possible that Danielle ran away and hid in the storage compartment of the moter home and that DW didn't know she was there until he smelled the body?

Having some first hand experience with abuse in the home, I am uncomfortable with the relationship of the DVDs!
581 posted on 07/04/2002 8:13:26 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: FresnoDA
I agree. Somber is a very interesting choice of words. What happened at the pizza party so as to cause a mood "so shaded as to be dark and gloomy" ?

One might speculate from this if its possible the pizza party goers have made some sort of pact or are mutually involved in covering up something terrible that has not been discovered yet. For example; they all return from the bar to the Van Dam home drunk and on drugs and then find out one of them has killed Danielle. Everyone points fingers at each other and before you know it, someone cooks up a plan. Then everything spins out of control from there.
582 posted on 07/04/2002 8:28:20 AM PDT by pyx
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To: hoosiermama; UCANSEE2
Regarding the time Damon had--from the testimony, it appears he had at least 4 hours. He is his own alibi, as the boys were asleep.

Could she have run away? I think she could have. Some have mulled that scenario--I think UCANSEE2 might have worked with that one some, if memory serves.
583 posted on 07/04/2002 8:30:02 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: MizSterious; pyx
Does it seem odd to anyone else: They picked two guys up at the bar to party in private and then didn't party or did they is that part of the secret?
584 posted on 07/04/2002 8:34:59 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: MizSterious
Thanks for posting the John and Ken interview. Interesting nuggets of info I hadn't heard mentioned:
Rumors that the neighborhood was involved in swinging.
The police suggested that DW get an attorney and actually referred him to Stephen Feldman. Makes me think that they felt he was being wrongly accused by the DA.
585 posted on 07/04/2002 8:38:28 AM PDT by nycgal
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To: hoosiermama
The 2 guys weren't strangers to the girls...they all knew each other. IF they were strangers I'd agree with ya.
586 posted on 07/04/2002 8:39:47 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: pyx
Or DVD comes downstairs with a attitude and a hot temper, throws ice on the party. Everyone becomes somber and leaves. DVD then tells BVD what happened and what she is to say.

I still find it unbelivable that neither mom or dad checked in a 7 year old for 12 hours. And that they woke up, had a wonderful breakfast with their two children, then noticed one was missing.

Something happened in that house, the VD's know what it was and are covering to save their asses. DW might have some involvement but I doubt it.

587 posted on 07/04/2002 8:40:42 AM PDT by winodog
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To: It's me
"That's the million dollar question. Why,after so many invites, did everyone leave so quickly? "

I think they simply did not have sex in the plan..how can we be sure there were many invites.? The defense is playing the ''tv and radio viewing audience'' like a violin...

588 posted on 07/04/2002 8:43:04 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: hoosiermama
They picked up two guys they already knew. They tried to pick up several other strangers but failed. Yes, I have always found it odd, but some here do not and will defend them to the bitter end.
589 posted on 07/04/2002 8:43:06 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: FresnoDA
She struck me as a hard-core party chick...husky voice

You too?

590 posted on 07/04/2002 8:44:10 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: hoosiermama
Its like the old story about a quicksand pit. One person falls in and others end up becoming consumed by it while trying to pull others out.

If such a scenerio (as a pact between pizza partiers over Danielle's fate) occurred, perhaps the two men from Dad's may have been involved as either initially "fall guys" who ended up assisting with the clean up. Who knows ?

What if Damon left the Van Dam home to travel to Dad's to meet Brenda and tell her Danielle was missing or dead. Meanwhile, DW drives home and sees Damon's blue van missing from the driveway and presumes the babysitter is there as was mentioned to him. Hence his surprise when he mentioned the babysitter.
591 posted on 07/04/2002 8:45:54 AM PDT by pyx
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To: winodog
I also believe that a parent that has been drinking and comes home "mellow" is more likely to check in on their chidren if they love them. Trust me. Its a drunk thing.
592 posted on 07/04/2002 8:46:33 AM PDT by winodog
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To: MizSterious
Whomever did it, WANTED THE BODY FOUND. She was not buried, even though DW had a SHOVEL and went to the DESERT during the weekend.

IF DW did it, why wouldn't he have buried her body in the desert, never to be found again? Without the body, ALL the evidence would be circumstantial.

Obviously, leaving the body where it would be found indicates that the killer was not worried about leaving "hard evidence" (ie., fibres, hairs, etc.) on or around the body.

WHO would not be concerned about "hard evidence" on or around the body? ANYONE THAT WAS WITH HER, AT THE VD HOME, ON THE NIGHT SHE DISAPPEARED. These people can just say, "Yeah, I was around Danielle that night, that's why the fibres, etc. are on or around her". FWIW

593 posted on 07/04/2002 8:47:55 AM PDT by demsux
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To: demsux
Of course, the body had to be found for the $100,000 life insurance policy the parents had on her..........
594 posted on 07/04/2002 8:52:35 AM PDT by Two-Bits
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To: Two-Bits
Source, please?
595 posted on 07/04/2002 8:53:41 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama

Does it seem odd to anyone else: They picked two guys up at the bar to party in private and then didn't party or did they is that part of the secret?

And that's the $10 dollar question, isn't it....

By many accounts, as Cherokee and Glennie noted yesterday...

THE SLUTJACKALS were horny and on the prowl.....

THE FACTS ARE:

1.    They had all been Polyamourous before....

2.    They were "partied up".....Dope, Red Bull, Booze....(Possibly Viagra?)

3.    They were hitting on both MALES and FEMALES

4.    They were inviting randomly met stranger back to the Sabre Swings LOVE SHACK for more       "personalized" partying.

5.    Where and what was The Demon doing?  Unknown still,  was he at home, priming up his pump for later action??????

 

596 posted on 07/04/2002 8:55:28 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: winodog
Something happened in that house, the VD's know what it was and are covering to save their asses. DW might have some involvement but I doubt it.

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597 posted on 07/04/2002 8:57:32 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: pyx
" sort of prefer to limit my ramblings to within the scope that topic. "

Understood..btw, I kind of like your cloak of crabby commentary...It is nice to know when it's going to be worn rather than not being warned. :)

(PS: Maybe you can help keep the voodoo dolls from Doc Savage stay over on the clean threads...tee hee)

598 posted on 07/04/2002 8:59:24 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Doc Savage
PING...) ) ) LOL
599 posted on 07/04/2002 9:02:11 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Son may have kept child porn, expert says


Cherokee Youngs

 

By Alex Roth
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

July 4, 2002

A defense expert in the David Westerfield murder trial suggested yesterday that Westerfield's son might be the one responsible for downloading child pornography found on computers and disks in Westerfield's home.

The testimony came on a day when Westerfield's attorneys also called several witnesses to revisit the activities of Brenda van Dam and her friends at a Poway bar on the night her 7-year-old daughter, Danielle, vanished from her bedroom in the family's Sabre Springs home.

"I wouldn't mind taking these two home," Brenda van Dam said at one point in reference to a pair of strangers she met at the bar that night, according to a woman who was there.

Westerfield's attorneys presented the evidence as part of a continuing attempt to show that van Dam and her husband – with their bar-hopping, marijuana use and unconventional sex life – attracted so many unseemly characters that any number of people might have abducted and killed their daughter.

Westerfield lived two doors from the van Dams and is charged with kidnapping and murdering the second-grader. The 50-year-old design engineer also faces misdemeanor charges of possessing child pornography.

Prosecutors have said the pornography reveals Westerfield's motive for the crimes. But a computer expert hired by the defense testified yesterday that several Internet porn sites on the home computers – including those advertising teen sex and bestiality – were accessed by someone with an e-mail account that began with the letters DNWest.

The defendant's full name is David Alan Westerfield. The name of his 18-year-old son, of whom he and his ex-wife shared joint custody, is David Neal Westerfield. Among the e-mails sent to this account were several from a bookstore at San Diego State University, where the son is a student, according to testimony.

On cross-examination, prosecutor George "Woody" Clarke seemed to suggest that the father and son might have shared the same e-mail account, or that the father might have been using the account on his own. Clarke noted that a person using this account joined one Web site by creating the password 5203 – the last four digits of the father's Social Security number.

In court documents filed in April, prosecutors said that "the defendant, in an audiotape recorded interview with law enforcement, acknowledged his downloading of sexually explicit material."

Westerfield's son, "in a similar audiotaped interview with law enforcement, denied possession of sexually explicit material," the court documents state. None of these interviews has been played for the jury.

By trying to place responsibility for the child pornography on Westerfield's son, Westerfield's attorneys might have opened the door for prosecutors to call the son to the witness stand.

Because there is a gag order in the case, it was not possible to determine if they will do so. Westerfield's son has stated that he believes his father is innocent.

The expert called by the defense is Marcus Lawson, president of Global CompuSearch in Spokane, Wash., and a former Drug Enforcement Administration and Customs Service agent. He said he used special software to examine the hard drives of two computers found in Westerfield's home office, a computer in his son's bedroom, a laptop computer and several computer disks found on a bookshelf in Westerfield's home office.

An analysis shows that someone using the computers in Westerfield's office accessed an e-mail account named , Lawson testified. The same person with this e-mail address either accessed or was sent information about a number of pornographic Internet sites, including one advertising "teen sex" and another advertising "hardcore beast action."

Lawson also suggested that Westerfield's son may have been responsible for downloading several pornographic images found on the computer disks in his father's office.

Several of the images – including a video showing what appears to be a young girl being raped by two men – were shown to the jury last week. Many of the images on the disks were accessed at the same time that many of the images on Westerfield's son's computer had also been created, Lawson testified yesterday.

On cross-examination, prosecutor Clarke suggested Westerfield's son's computer might have been a hand-me-down from his father. Lawson also acknowledged that many of the images on the disks were created in 1999, when Westerfield's son was only 15, and that the files had electronic labels referring to Spectrum, the name of the father's business.

Many of the files on the disks were also labeled with the prefix "iea," the same prefix attached to various engineer business files that appeared to have been created by Westerfield, Lawson said.

Lawson said it was impossible to tell who downloaded the images on the disks.

In other testimony, the defense called Cherokee Youngs, who was a patron at Dad's Cafe & Steakhouse on Feb. 1. She said she saw Brenda van Dam with two girlfriends drinking, dancing and "having a good time."

Youngs said that although she had never met the three women before, Brenda van Dam's friend Barbara Easton began hitting on her. Youngs said she felt so uncomfortable that she struck up a conversation with a man she didn't know – someone named Ryan – as a way to fend off Easton. (SLUTJACKAL DEFENSIVE MOVE!!)

Not long afterward, Brenda van Dam glanced at Youngs and Ryan and announced, "I wouldn't mind taking these two home," Youngs testified. Earlier in the trial, van Dam and her husband, Damon, said they had swapped sex partners with their friends.

Later that night, Brenda van Dam invited Youngs and Ryan back to her house, but they both declined, Youngs said.

Youngs also said she saw van Dam dancing in the bar that night with someone who could have been Westerfield, but she wasn't sure. She said she didn't get a good glimpse of the man, and added that Westerfield's look – middle-age, balding and wearing a goatee – is fairly common for the area.

"The majority of the men in Poway look like Dave Westerfield," she said.

"Now we've offended Poway," Superior Court Judge William Mudd interjected.

Westerfield, who was a neighborhood acquaintance of the van Dams, was in the bar that night but left before Brenda van Dam and her friends.

Westerfield's attorneys have been trying to show that Westerfield danced with van Dam that night. Any physical contact between the two could help explain how fibers and hairs from the girl might have been transported into Westerfield's house.

San Diego police Detective Lucious Mobley testified that Youngs told him during a Feb. 8 interview that she saw Westerfield and van Dam dancing that night. Youngs said that was incorrect.

The final witness of the day was Glennie Nasland, a friend of Westerfield's who saw him at Dad's on Feb. 1. She said she saw Westerfield dancing with van Dam and her friend Denise Kemal. He didn't make physical contact with van Dam during the dance, Nasland testified.

Nasland said she saw Westerfield leave the bar about midnight. "He was drunk," she said.

The trial is scheduled to resume Monday.


600 posted on 07/04/2002 9:07:35 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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