To: Khepera
"i believe" -- faith, not science... nothing wrong with that but it needs to be discussed separately.
i believe that it is pointless to debate "evolution", age of the earth, etc. there is no "scientific" method of "proving" anyone's theory on the matter. and the important question of where did the first piece of life, in the form of bacteria (?), come from is never addressed. because it is too difficult to scientifically consider. and then, even if advances over the next 10, 100, 1000 years allow the addressing of that very important question you still have to ask where the atom in its intricate detail "came from".
we live in the confinement of time - birth to death - and have no ability to answer questions outside of that realm, although the questions come in abundance.
6 posted on
07/03/2002 10:17:21 AM PDT by
kpp_kpp
To: kpp_kpp
The question of how life started - aka "abiogenesis" - is separate from evolution. Evolution proper does not make claims on how life started, only how life has behaved since.
To: kpp_kpp
I have no care to discuss "Science". There is no real way to change someones mind via argument. I believe what I say is true because God told me the truth. I will act on that and ignore any heathens who wish to argue foe what do they know but the smell of their own flatulance.
9 posted on
07/03/2002 10:22:59 AM PDT by
Khepera
To: kpp_kpp
there is no "scientific" method of "proving" anyone's theory on the matter.
Scientific theories are never proven.
and the important question of where did the first piece of life, in the form of bacteria (?), come from is never addressed.
Well, this is a seperate issue from evolution.
21 posted on
07/03/2002 10:35:41 AM PDT by
Dimensio
To: kpp_kpp
there is no "scientific" method of "proving" anyone's theory on the matter.Intellectual honesty...and on a crevo thread...how refreshing!
and the important question of where did the first piece of life, in the form of bacteria (?), come from is never addressed. because it is too difficult to scientifically consider.
On this point we must part company. "Difficulty" is not why biogenesis isn't considered.
29 posted on
07/03/2002 10:49:34 AM PDT by
Woahhs
To: kpp_kpp
I like the way you put it ....
we live in the confinement of time - birth to death - and have no ability to answer questions outside of that realm, although the questions come in abundance.I even get into heated debates with my husband and 21 year old son, and we are all of the same faith. We can debate all kinds of Biblical things like how old is the earth, what happens to us when we die....? We always end up disagreeing and having more questions than answers.
A Freeper friend of mine believes in evolution done by God. I believe in creation done by God. We have some wonderful debates, we LOVE it! We never get mad, and it makes us both think! [Sharon, are you there?????]
We had a pastor who would tell us, when we stumped him with a theological question, "I am going to ask God when I get to heaven." I thought that was a great answer! He said the only theological question is WHY? not WHEN? or HOW? I agree. But I still come up with so many questions. For those who believe in The Bible, I think it was written in a way that we will never figure it all out, so we have to continually read it. I think God planned it that way. But what do I know?????
31 posted on
07/03/2002 10:54:37 AM PDT by
buffyt
To: kpp_kpp
This whole post is regretfully uninformed claptrap. The unanswerable questions you mention are easily answered, have been answered, are far along the road to being answered. this is an example of the failure of the U.S. education system; ignorance in both science and philosophy. Two little books will put you on the road 1) Immense Journey by loren Eisley and 2) Realms of Knowledge ny Phillip Phenix. Both are easy, delightful to read and factually and philosophically sound.
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