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PREDATORS WANT EVEN MORE "RIGHTS": Suspected High-Tech Pedophiles Arrested in Seven Countries
Associated Press ^ | 7/02/02 | Sue Leeman

Posted on 07/02/2002 11:59:14 AM PDT by Liz

LONDON (AP) - Police in seven European countries struck Tuesday at a sophisticated child abuse and pornography ring dubbed "Shadowz Brotherhood," arresting 50 people and seizing computer equipment, CD-ROMs and videos, authorities said.

Police described the images created and distributed by the group as some of the most shocking they had ever seen. Members of the ring allegedly broadcast live pictures of abuse on the Internet and posted images of children, including babies, being sexually abused and tortured.

"In terms of the kind of material they are posting and allowing access to, it's the worst group I have encountered," said Detective Chief Supt. Len Hynds of Britain's National High-tech Crime Unit, which coordinated a yearlong investigation with the European police organization Europol.

"This group were using highly sophisticated technical means," he added. "It was a level of sophistication we have not seen in law enforcement before."

Arrests were made in Germany - where 31 suspects were apprehended - Belgium, Britain, Italy, the Netherlands, Spain and Sweden, Europol said.

British police said the ring was set up about two years ago and also had members in the United States, Canada, Denmark, Romania and Switzerland.

Hundreds of police officers swooped on suspects' homes in synchronized raids early Tuesday, seizing dozens of computers, videos and compact discs containing obscene images, the British crime unit said.

Police also contacted 62 Internet service providers, telling them to remove material related to the ring from 244 sites.

Hynds said the group had about 100 members, including 23 "systems administrators" who ran the ring's Web site and "monitored bulletin boards and chat rooms ensuring people were using proper security measures and excluded people from the site if they weren't."

Administrators also provided advice about police tactics and techniques so they could avoid detection, he added.

"The Shadowz Brotherhood believed they were beyond the law ... but this shows there is no hiding place for pedophiles," Hynds said.

Sixteen suspected members of the group were already in custody in Britain, Germany, the United States, Denmark, the Netherlands, Sweden and Canada. British detectives also are conducting investigations in Japan and South Korea.

One suspect in the United States, an air force officer, has committed suicide while in custody, police said, without releasing his name.

Authorities say some members of the group sexually abused children and then posted the images on their Web site, which also provided advice on how to meet children in Internet chat rooms.

They used sophisticated encryption techniques, sometimes hiding material in seemingly innocent picture files, officials said.

Police said administrators operated a "star" system to rate members: after initial vetting, new members received a one-star rating, allowing them to view certain chat rooms, newsgroups and bulletin boards.

To gain further stars they had to post images of child sex abuse on the group's site; as they gained stars, they obtained greater access to restricted sites containing the most graphic material.

To further increase security, the group was structured in cells whose members knew only each other, police said.

AP-ES-07-02-02 1352EDT


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To: concerned about politics
(Bwaney) He has no teeth, either. Ever notice that? Like an infant?

Never noticed....not as apparent like, say, Waxman's nose. LOL. But Bwaney always did remind me of an overgrown adolescent.

21 posted on 07/02/2002 3:06:12 PM PDT by Liz
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To: FormerLurker
"Cruel and unusual punishment" would be fitting for these subhuman swine.

Can't think of a single, fitting punishment that would fit this gross crime against children......

22 posted on 07/02/2002 3:07:57 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
Can't think of a single, fitting punishment that would fit this gross crime against children......

From the Dog meat hot among Korea and China's trendy young thread..

Dogs are usually strung up by their necks and beaten repeatedly to increase the flow of adrenaline in their flesh. Consumers believe the more pain the animals suffer, the more tender the meat becomes.

The dogs would struggle, howl, urinate and bleed till they become unconscious. Finally, they are chopped into pieces. All these are done in front of other dogs awaiting the same fate.

I can't think of a more fitting punishment than that. These subhumans deserve it much more than these innocent little pooches..

23 posted on 07/02/2002 3:21:42 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: Illbay
The Pedophocracy, Part I: From Brussels ...
24 posted on 07/02/2002 3:37:33 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: FormerLurker
"Paedophiles can boldly and courageously affirm what they choose ... I am also a theologian and as a theologian, I believe it is God's will that there be closeness and intimacy, unity of flesh, between people ... paedophiles can make the assertion that the pursuit of intimacy and love is what they choose. With boldness, they can say, 'I believe this is in fact part of God's will.'" Ralph Underwager, 'expert' witness for the defense in scores of child abuse cases and former vocal member of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, in an interview in Paidika (a pro-pedophilia publication), conducted in June 1991

Why does liberalism always refer to sexual perversions as "love?"
They have no idea what love is, do they? They think it means sickly lusts.
They want laws to protect them, and laws that force us to "tolerate" it.
Sick ba$tards.

25 posted on 07/02/2002 3:47:39 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: Lurker
They are both simply different aspects of the same thing: Trading in human misery and death, and human hunger for that which is execrable, in order to reap huge monetary rewards.

As to the scale of child porn, who knows? As our world becomes more and more evil I suspect that the demand for such hellish material will grow as well.

26 posted on 07/02/2002 3:57:46 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Liz
There was a British produced movie on one of the HBO Channels last month called The Lost Son or something like that....it was about this French Investigator who lived in London. He was called upon to find a wealthy man's son who had gone missing. The story was really about a worldwide child porn ring. Of course, all was implied....not shown....but it was the best movie on the subject that I have ever watched. I was cringing in parts as this investigator would stumble upon incredible evidence and information. The movie really told the intricacies of how it all could go on and how far it stretched into society...right under everyone's noses.

AND.....the head of the ring was called....THE BELGIAN. HMMMMMMM.....interesting.....

Later, I read the movie was based on true events.....CREEPY!!!

27 posted on 07/02/2002 4:02:13 PM PDT by BossLady
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To: Liz
Fire up the woodchipper and feed them in, one bit at a time.
28 posted on 07/02/2002 4:03:12 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: BossLady
Where did all those children on the milk cartons go?
Remove God from a society, you get this.
29 posted on 07/02/2002 4:12:13 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: Lurker
Child porn, while a very serious problem, doesn't even remotely compare.

Ah. I saw enough of you on that other thread to gain some impression of your views.

Now, as for size, this is of course right. Now pay close attention - it's just for a moment and won't hurt a bit :)

I said "hi-revenue". I also said "every bit as difficult to control". Now, where the flyng f did I mention size? Are you deliberately slow, or is it a birth thing?

Or are you just another of those guys that gets all jittery when someone mentions "drugs" OR "child porn"?

30 posted on 07/02/2002 4:12:58 PM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Illbay
As our world becomes more and more evil I suspect that the demand for such hellish material will grow as well.

Not often I agree with you, but you nailed it.

31 posted on 07/02/2002 4:14:50 PM PDT by Cachelot
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To: concerned about politics
The movie showed one of the 'shelters' in Mexico. Taxis would pick up street children and deliver them to this 'camp'. Since they are street kids....no one cares. Kidnappings usually came when 'clients' wanted something special. Ugh....it grosses me out to think about it.....
32 posted on 07/02/2002 4:19:02 PM PDT by BossLady
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To: BossLady
Kidnappings usually came when 'clients' wanted something special. Ugh....it grosses me out to think about it

I saw a show on Mexico homosexual pedophillia. The blond haired, blue eyed boys were more expensive. American businessmen were often the clients down there.
Think about it. Where would Mexico get blonds with blue eyes?
How many kids, especially boys, are missing with these colors in the U.S.? Wasn't a blond haired, blue eyed boy just reported missing out west somewhere about a month ago? There was a thread on it. He went off on his bike, and never came home.

33 posted on 07/02/2002 4:25:57 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: Cachelot
"Ah. I saw enough of you on that other thread to gain some impression of your views."

It's a wrong impression, apparently.

It's a fairly common mistake among liberals to jump to conclusions before they have any facts. I'm used to it.

You'll soon find out that fools aren't suffered gladly around here.

L

34 posted on 07/02/2002 4:32:38 PM PDT by Lurker
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To: concerned about politics
Oh yeah...I believe it!!! I lived and worked in Hollyweird for 14 years. A buddy of mine did an astonishing job researching and writing a script on kiddie porn and snuff movies in the early 90s. It was shocking. We shopped the script around....and we got calls threatening our lives. One movie mogul candidly said to us...."this script hits too close to home for many Hollywood actors, media and execs. What do you think they do with all their money??

Since then, I stumbled upon quite a few pedophiles amongst these very people. One of them is a HUGE box office star. Sickening isn't it??????

35 posted on 07/02/2002 4:43:47 PM PDT by BossLady
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To: Lurker
You'll soon find out that fools aren't suffered gladly around here.

And still you remain.

Now, kindly b*gger off to libertarian-land.

*plonk*

36 posted on 07/02/2002 4:51:23 PM PDT by Cachelot
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To: concerned about politics
Where would Mexico get blonds with blue eyes?

From the "Castilian" population. Not all Mexicans are Indian or mestizo. There is a sizeable minority of pure-blood Europeans.

37 posted on 07/02/2002 4:52:20 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Liz
Quick, everybody off the thread, the fragile, tenuous link with gay rights is about to snap.

Whoops, too late.
38 posted on 07/02/2002 5:02:30 PM PDT by GCSmith
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To: concerned about politics
Why does liberalism always refer to sexual perversions as "love?"

Another example of this so-called "love" is that promoted by NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association).

What a demented bunch they are.

39 posted on 07/02/2002 5:09:51 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: Cachelot
Another Liberal shows his colors.

(Yes I mean you.)

L

40 posted on 07/02/2002 6:27:17 PM PDT by Lurker
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