High anxieties : What the WHO doesn't want you to know about cannabis

New Scientist ^

[Phantom Lord]

I have read it in various places. Don't have any sources handy to link to at this time but will search them out when time permits.

As someone who smokes cigarettes and someone who smoked a lot of pot in college, my personal experience would lead me to believe the stuff I have read that there is no nicotine in pot. If there is, the amount is so minute as to not matter.

Nicotine is HIGHLY addictive and if pot had nicotine even approaching that of cigarettes it would be as addictive as cigarettes. And pot is not addictive. At least not in the physical way that nicotine and other drugs are. Mentally addictive? For some, yes. But not physically addictive.

Whens the last time you saw pot heads needing to take a 'toke break' every hour at the office? Now how often do you see smokers taking 'smoke breaks' at the office?

[SBprone]

Pot makes you stupid! Don't ask me how I know this.

Should it be illegal? Well I dunno. I think it should be illegal for me. And for my kids.

[CDHart]

"The logic of marijuana being illegal escapes me."

My neighbor told me that when alcohol was made legal again, after Prohibition, the feds had too many agents running around with not enough to do. Marijuana and other drugs were legal at that time. So they made them illegal so the FBI wouldn't have to lay off their agents. Who knows if it's true?

Carolyn

[EBUCK]

The report said that some succeptable people can react that way. But the same can be said of many prescribed, or not, legal substances. This, however, is the first time I've ever heard of MJ contributing as such. How many people do you hear of killing themselves while drunk?

EBUCK

[Dakmar]

Reminds me of that old Loverboy song "A Pigs and an Elephants DNA Just Won't Splice"

[Gabz]

Direct cut and paste from your source re: Cannabis Sativa

. Cannabis also contains choline, eugenol, guaiacol, nicotine, and piperidine (C.S.I.R., 1948-1976), all listed as toxins by the National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health.

[Dead Corpse]

Sorry Dakmar, I hated Loverboy's attempt at music so the reference is kinda lost. Stole my pig/elephant analogy wholesale from a South Park episode. ;-)

[EBUCK]

Conspiracy, certainly. Leftist? Hardly. Unless you consider a very large portion of this site "Leftist". Face it. MJ is, at its worst, as bad as alchohol (certainly far less harmfull but FTSOA..) yet it's use and possession is in the same felony class that Heroin and Cocain are in. Does that make sense?

EBUCK

[Dead Corpse]

Missed that part. Good catch. Points for Gabz and Destroyer.

Now for the $64,000 question; Is it a trace substance or is there more than in tobacco as Destroyer was trying to assert?

Thanks for playing. We'll make sure to hand out copies of our home game.

[Destructor]

Aw, now Phantom you know that's not an argument. How many people have you known that started their day with pot, got high at lunch, had their "4:30 buzz," and then ended their day getting high "to help them sleep?" It might not be physically addictive, but it's sure as hell psychologically addictive!

[Dakmar]

LOL, there was no Loverboy song like that, it was from same episode of South Park.

[Phantom Lord]

It'd be like trying to breed a pot bellied pig to an elephant.

The first thing you have to do is get them good and drunk.

[EBUCK]

SouthPark refs will not go unnoticed by me!!!

EBUCK

[Phantom Lord]

There is a HUGE difference between physical addition and physcological addiction.

Smokers have a strong and controling PHYSICAL addiction to nicotine.

And that would be 4:20, not 4:30.

[EBUCK]

had their "4:30 buzz,"

I believe that the buzz is at 4:20 traditionaly.

EBUCK

[WindMinstrel]

Smokers have a strong and controling PHYSICAL addiction to nicotine.

I gave up Copenhagen just about 1 year ago now. I still get cravings -- almost on a daily basis. Damned straight it's a physical addiction.

Of course, that doesn't mean tobacco should be illegal, either.

[EBUCK]

Did you use any aids (not AIDS) to help you quit? I've been chewing for going on 12 years now and I'm ready to kick.

EBUCK

[WindMinstrel]

I tried going cold turkey, and it didn't quite work. I then tried the patch, and that was counter-productive. I finally tried hypnosis, and that was just enough to do it.

That's not to say that hypnosis was painless, mind you. I went through full withdrawals, which were even worse because they were unexpected. I managed to get through it, though.

[The_Media_never_lie]

cannabis is safer than alcohol or tobacco.

Which is like saying diabetes is not as bad as cancer or a heart attack.

[Gabz]

I seriously doubt the amount of nicotine incannabis equally that of tobacco, probably more along the lines of the amounts in tomatos and potatoes.