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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
The Holocaust-denier level lie of Afro-Confederacy is flatly contradicted by the fact that the blood-drenched imposition of Jim Crow in the late 19th century was the South's price for accepting reunion. Legends of black confederate soldiers validate the confederate cause as deeply as Lord Dunsmore's Ethiopians validate the British cause in the American Revolution.

The rapid Northern conquest of the Deep South after Vicksburgs could not have been accomplished without the support of the large freed black slave population, which enabled the Union to garrison secured areas. That is why in the summer of 1863, after the fall of Vicksburg laid the Deep South open to invasion, whites in those states realized that a huge slave population was now a fatal vulnerability. Had blacks been on the confederate side, the confederacy would have won. It's that simple.

Nothing illustrates this more clearly than the fate of General Cleburne. Patrick Cleburne, the most capable general in the Confederate Army of the Tennesee, proposed in January 1864 the emancipation and enlistment of blacks. His punishment was to passed over for lesser generals in the command of the Army of the Tennessee. Cleburne was twice the general Bragg and Hood were and the soldiers of that army knew it.
20 posted on 07/02/2002 5:30:18 AM PDT by Tokhtamish
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To: Tokhtamish
Had blacks been on the confederate side, the confederacy would have won. It's that simple.

Nothing's that simple, Tok.
The Confederacy was out gunned, out manned and out produced, they didn't have a chance.
They could, however, shoot much straighter and had much better looking women! {;o)

28 posted on 07/02/2002 5:47:20 AM PDT by RightWinger
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To: Tokhtamish
The rapid Northern conquest of the Deep South after Vicksburgs could not have been accomplished without the support of the large freed black slave population, which enabled the Union to garrison secured areas. That is why in the summer of 1863, after the fall of Vicksburg laid the Deep South open to invasion, whites in those states realized that a huge slave population was now a fatal vulnerability. Had blacks been on the confederate side, the confederacy would have won. It's that simple.

This is interesting and supports what I recently read in "Shrouds of Glory" about Tennessee and Hood's last campaign.

According to the book, there were plenty of small Union garrisons all through Tennessee. Thomas had to get them all back to Nashville to face Hood. I wondered how that could be possible. And Sherman had reasonably good communications with Washington up through the siege of Atlanta. That seemed odd to me, since Sherman's army was to some degree self contained. Your statement supports that.

It is generally accepted that if the people's support for the CSA had not waned, there is no way the federals could have prevailed.

Walt

188 posted on 07/03/2002 2:34:14 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa
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