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To: MonroeDNA; Cultural Jihad
"if a certain religion forbids condemning the Muslims responsible for those attrocious acts, then that religion needs to be examined carefully." Needs to be examined carefully? Needs to be thrown in the bin, because it is rubbish. I do not mind answering your question Monroe, and I don't consider it jumping through a hoop, CJ. Or it if it is a hoop, I have got quite nimble at it. In recent years, I have been confronted again and again, in the rudest terms, (by rude I don't mean you Monroe, I mean goldengirl), asking me do I "approve" of this sex crime or that one. Especially by priests. And the answer is always, no I do not approve.

I do not know anyone who does approve. There was case in the early 90s, some Anglican minister whose daughter was raped. He announced that he "forgave" them - judge not and ye shall not be judged ... etc. - and the British judge gave them a lenient sentence because he found that the woman had recovered well. Ugh! No, I don't agree.

I probably should have begun my response to that Pakistani story by saying that I condemn the Muslim perpetrators, and also those who aided and abetted them. I take it for granted that such people are guilty under both secular and religious laws. To me, that goes without saying. Also, I don't expect that they will really be brought to justice in Pakistan.

That is deplorable, but before I rush off to some tribal village in the Kush, to help my brother with that mote in his eye, I must see that sexual offenses are absolutely rife in my own country, which is Australia, and no one cares unless the perpetrators happen to be members of an ethnic minority, or the Catholic clergy. Only two months ago, a W.A. man who raped a very young girl (a toddler) then incited a 15 y.o. relative to also assault her, went before the courts. He got the minimum sentence, and will be out in a few years. It happens again and again. I see the same trends in the USA. You must realise that the behaviour of the barbaric tribesmen is very similar to that of biker gangs - a American invention.

In an earlier post, Cultural Jihad pointed out that one of the most destructive trends in modern society is the secular attack on morality. This is true. Illegitimate births, immodest dress, public drunkeness, permissive sex, promotion of deviancy, are tearing us to bits. In the future, sex criminals and psychopaths will be absolutely common, because such people are produced by childhoods where they are exposed to pornography, violence and serial "step fathers." For whole swathes of society, this is now the norm.
494 posted on 07/05/2002 7:49:24 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil
(by rude I don't mean you Monroe, I mean goldengirl)

It's customary to ping someone when you are talking about them, especially behind their back. That's rude.

before I rush off to some tribal village in the Kush, to help my brother with that mote in his eye, I must see that sexual offenses are absolutely rife in my own country, which is Australia,

It's a plank BTW. It's also happening within the Muslim population in the Phillipines, Sudan, Holland and Denmark. Are the tribesmen migrating there? It may be endemic within a culture but it appears to be endemic within the religion.

And thanks for identifying who your brothers are.

495 posted on 07/05/2002 8:51:16 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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