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To: strela
"Then surely you'll have no trouble finding a passage or two in the Koran that explicitly authorizes the rape of women. Again, my supper's getting cold; please hurry."

While you are eating your supper, perhaps, you might like to glance over this data? _________________________________________________________

"Is rape a criminal offense under Islam, or is it part of the booty after the conquest of 'un-believers'?

"I remember students used to ask the teacher during our Islamic studies in Bethlehem High school, if it was permitted for Muslims to rape the Jewish women after we defeat them, his response was "The women captured in battle have no choice in this matter, they are concubines and they need to obey their masters, having sex with slave captives is not a "matter of choice for slaves.", this in fact was written in the Koran, for it says:

"Forbidden to you also are married women, except those who are in your hand as slaves, this is the law of Allah for you." -- Sura: The Women (al-Nisa, verse 20) And in a different verse the Koran says:

"O prophet; we allowed thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowries, and the slaves whom thy right hand possesseth out of the booty which Allah hath granted thee, and the daughters of thy uncle, and of thy maternal aunt, who fled with thee to Medina, and any believing woman who hath given herself up to the prophet, if the prophet desired to wed her, a privilege to thee above the rest of the faithful". -- Sura: Confederates (al-Ahzab verse 50)

We had no problem with Mohammed taking advantage of this privilege as he married 14 wives for himself and several slave girls from the booty he collected as a result of his victorious battles, we really never knew how many wives he had and that question was always a debatable issue to us, one of these wives was taken from his own adopted son 'Zaid', as Allah declared that she was given to the prophet, others were Jewish captives forced into slavery after Mohammed beheaded their husbands and families.

- Walid, a Palestinian Arab defector quoted from "Answering Islam"

At the Hindu students' dormitory, the students who survived the attack were forced to dig graves for their slaughtered fellow students, exactly like the 800 Jews of Qurayza, at the time of Mohammed, the Prophet of Islam. Then they too were shot and stuffed into the graves dug with their own hands. Thousands of Hindus died that night. more than three hundred Moslem troops attacked the girl students of Rockey Hall, Dacca University. Stripping them naked, the troops raped, bayoneted, and murdered lovely Bengali girls. Dozens of girls jumped to their death from the roof of the building rather than suffer the fate of their sisters.

from Islam in Action, by Anwar Shaikh "

URL: http://www.yahoodi.com/peace/women.html

188 posted on 07/01/2002 7:08:10 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: Don Myers

I have heard all I need to hear.

It was wrong when David did it and it's wrong now. The only difference is that Islam seems to justify this and God punished David.

An evil, wicked religion.

195 posted on 07/01/2002 7:13:45 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Don Myers
The Mosaic Law enforced essentially the same practices with regard to captured enemy women. They became the property of the Jews who had killed their husbands or fathers.

You might also try reading Homer or The Trojan Women (Euripides?).

The difference is that nobody in the West still openly advocates such things, despite their ancient roots in our ancestral culture.

206 posted on 07/01/2002 7:23:38 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: Don Myers
And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.
And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:
Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

Genesis 19:30-38

321 posted on 07/01/2002 9:18:23 PM PDT by strela
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