[madfly]

I would add the illegal immigration issue, which is a companion to the Enviro issue being it affects the Southwest. Hopefully 2 hot issues for the comming elections in Arizona.

[Grampa Dave]

The final blow to me re the envirals was when we had the proposition against illegal aliens here in Kali.

At that time the destruction and garbaging of our outdoors by herds of illegal aliens was very evident.

The state, national and local enviral nazis of Club Sierra refused to join the rest of us in make it harder for illegal aliens to come into this state and country.

Then, it became very evident that they were a tool of the RATS and in some cases the RATS were a tool of the enviral nazis. They lost a lot of members with that stance.

However, we do not need to make this a race issue. No one detests illegal aliens any more than me. We can continue to point out how dangerous to all Americans these enviral nazis are in reality without us trying to play the race card.