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To: occam's chainsaw
You might want to look up the definiton of the word "allegiance". I believe you have it confused with the word "worship". There's a BIG difference

I understand the definition of the word "allegiance". Do you understand the definition of the word "idolatry"?

As stated, I would also like clarification of the phrase "and the republic for which it stands" among other vague and poorly defined terms.

Best regards,

14 posted on 07/04/2002 6:37:09 AM PDT by Copernicus
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To: Copernicus
This is a really stupid thing to be arguing about, but I'm bored and have a little time to kill, so..."I'm your huckleberry". Here goes:

Webster defines idolatry as:
Main Entry: idol·a·try
Pronunciation: -trE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -tries
Date: 13th century
1 : the worship of a physical object as a god
2 : immoderate attachment or devotion to something

I don't know of anyone who worships Old Glory as a god, but there is no shortage of freaks in the world and it wouldn't surprise me too much if someone out there did. If you are trying to say a good christian doesn't worship the flag as a god, then I would have to thank you for stating the obvious and question why you are making such an odd comment.

The only other possibility (using these two basic definitions) would be that you are trying to say anyone possessing an "immoderate" attachment or devotion to the flag is not behaving like a good christian. Well, OK, let's look more closely at the definition of "immoderate": exceeding just, usual, or suitable bounds. In order for your argument to be feasible using this definition, you would have to explain why an American citizen pledging allegiance to the flag is demonstrating an attachment or devotion that is "exceeding just, usual, or suitable bounds".

Pledging Allegiance is declaring a binding promise of devotion and loyalty. Pledging allegiance to the flag and the republic for which it stands is promising to be devoted and loyal to our great country and the flag which symbolizes it. I do not see anything unjust, unusual, unsuitable, or even unchristian about such an act.

We could go on arguing over semantics, context, translations, and intentions all day long - but, why? I can think of SO many better things to do with my time than defending such an obviously commendable, patriotic, and honorable act that doesn't NEED defense except to those who would choose to undermine the very things that make this country the greatest in the world. If you are not one of those people, why are you trying to convince us that the Pledge of Allegiance is such a bad thing?

If you ARE one of those people, you are posting in the wrong forum! If you are NOT one of those people, find something more worthy of your time. There are much bigger and more important battles to win out there.

17 posted on 07/05/2002 10:24:17 AM PDT by occam's chainsaw
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