I dug up and posted the relevant portions of the original transcripts from the Today show back in September, 99 leading up to and including the appearance of Edmund Morris, the author of Dutch.
You might want to look at the Today's shows own words from back then before you declare a winner. Ann may have been out-blabbed, but I don't think she got out argued.
Heck, the toady had to resort to reminding Ann that she was the one conducting the interview because she lost control of her own show.
I read the transcript not having seen the "interview." Sans the emotions of live viewing it appears to me that Ann was not out-witted at all.