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To: FreedominJesusChrist
the term God within the context of the Pledge is generic and applies to anyone who has an ounce of religious belief

   No, it does not. I refuse to accede to your name for a deity, precisely because of your propensity to leap to absurd conclusions as to what is meant by someone else's words. If I said 'God', you couldn't help yourself but wrap up your own version/interpretation of that word, and then impute those beliefs to me, simply because I used the same word.

   I doubt seriously you'll ever begin to see my point, just as you won't about that ridiculous assertion about 'secular humanism'. Lack of a reference to religion is simply that, a lack of reference -- no implications, no inferences, no hidden agendas, no mention, pro or con. That's all it means.

   Conversely, a specific reference to religion, instigated by a state-sponsored/mandated institution, constitutes an endorsement of religion, and in this case, a particular flavor of religion.

   "Congress shall make no law...". Just because it's been abridged, squeezed and stomped on before is no reason to continue.

438 posted on 06/27/2002 11:47:42 AM PDT by Le-Roy
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To: Le-Roy
Your assumptions are completely ridiculous. Voluntarily reciting the Pledge of Alligence at school, which merely generically acknowledges the existence of a God, does not establish a state religion. Refusing to allow students the right to recite the Pledge of Alligance in school would be violating their free speech rights. Why do you believe that a student's free speech rights are not legitimate within the setting of school walls?

Refusing the right of students to acknowledge the existence of a God in school and the honor of pledging their loyalty to God and country, would be a prime example of government being an adversary of religion and religious expression.

By the way, you forget to mention the Free Exercise Clause in your quote.

441 posted on 06/27/2002 11:54:49 AM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Le-Roy
"Congress shall make no law...".

Yes, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."

WADR, what religion is being established by the word "God" in the Pledge?

Careful, this is a trick question.

444 posted on 06/27/2002 12:13:03 PM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society
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