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Vanity: The Pledge of Allegiance is Unconstitutional - If That Doesn't Convince You What Will?
June 26, 2002 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 06/26/2002 11:48:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Something for you to think about......
381 posted on 06/27/2002 7:58:41 AM PDT by deport
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To: Jim Robinson
Do you know if and when this is going to be further appealed to a higher court? I hope it will be soon. Also, I'm going to be in D.C. soon. What say we all get our Freep on, and let the world know what we think of this unconstitutional ruling?
382 posted on 06/27/2002 7:59:43 AM PDT by Mighty Pen
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To: maica
Question: - Do west coast viewers have to watch Fox at 3am or do you get it three hours later? If you do, be sure to watch between 8 and 8:15.

It comes on here at 0300-0600. We watch from 0445-0600 as we're getting ready for work. E.D. was great - she ripped that jerk a new one.

383 posted on 06/27/2002 8:08:02 AM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: Jim Robinson
I pledge alligence to the flag of the United States
and to the republic for which it stands
one nation UNDER GOD
indivisible
with liberty and justice
for ALL
384 posted on 06/27/2002 8:10:48 AM PDT by clamper1797
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To: Jim Robinson
I love my country and I love my freedom more than life itself. I don't care what anyone says about me, or what labels they pin on me. From this day forward I am a Bush-bot and proud of it! I am going to help turn this thing around or I'm going down in flames trying.
385 posted on 06/27/2002 8:13:14 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: Ms. AntiFeminazi
I called my Senators to request that they make an official statement on the ruling, and to contact me to give me their personal views on the pending judicial appointments/explain their positions.
386 posted on 06/27/2002 8:18:28 AM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: kcpopps
But the Republican bashing associates that I debate via email about various issues have pounced on me in this case because 2 of the 3 judges here are Republican appointees.

You can begin by informing them that the (vehemently) dissenting opinion was written by Judge Fernandez, one of the two Republican (Bush 1)appointees, and that other concurring vote was by Judge Reinhardt, a Carter nominee.

As Freeper deport has pointed out the makeup of the Senate when the other Republican (Goodwin/Nixon) was confirmed was: Democrats --- 54; Republicans -- 44; Independents -- 1; Conservative -- 1 -- obviously making it difficult to get a truly conservative judge appointed, so it would be safe to assume that Goodwin is not conservative.

As others have pointed out, Goodwin was called back from retirement due to the shortage of judges caused by Dashchle's open and avowed refusal to confirm Bush's judicial nominees.

You may also want to read the dissenting opinion by Judge Fernandez, the other Republican nominee posted posted here by Freeper, Constitution Day.

387 posted on 06/27/2002 8:20:05 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: Jim Robinson
Thanks, Jim -- I'm awake now.
388 posted on 06/27/2002 8:21:21 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: Jim Robinson
The liberal activist judiciary has tested the waters. If America does not wake up and not only say no, but hell no to this abomination, then what will the emboldened court take next? Well, I don't know about you, but I'm not gonna sit around on my butt doing nothing while we find out.

Let me say one other thing Mr. Robinson.

I know you are using the word 'liberal' in the sense that it is the common usage for describing what we here know to be the left wing.

These people are as far from being 'liberal' in any classic sense of the word.

They are totalitarians, ruling by fiat; stuffing the courts with like minded drones who will legislate whatever they see fit from the bench.

389 posted on 06/27/2002 8:21:37 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: Mo1
"..... I love my country and I love my freedom more than life itself. I don't care what anyone says about me, or what labels they pin on me. From this day forward I am a Bush-bot and proud of it! I am going to help turn this thing around or I'm going down in flames trying. "

Thank you. I am so grateful for the firm position you have taken on this crucial issue and for the positive suggestions. We need to replace both Senators from my state but especially the jr Senator,Mary Landrieu. She is a young Hillary in the making with the money and backing of the old democratic party machine here. Right now the chances of defeating her aren't looking too good.

Thanks for the Ping, Mo. :)

390 posted on 06/27/2002 8:23:19 AM PDT by Darlin'
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To: Darlin'
Your welcome ... but I think you meant most of that post for Jim
391 posted on 06/27/2002 8:30:42 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: RollingThunder
The greatest irony of that decision is that Madalyn Murray’s son now runs The Religious Freedom Coalition:

“The Religious Freedom Coalition is a non-profit organization dedicated to the restoration of religious freedom in the United States as envisioned by the authors of the Constitution. William J. Murray, founder and chairman, came naturally to an interest in religious freedom and the moral crisis facing our nation. He was the plaintiff of record in the 1963 landmark Supreme Court case that outlawed school prayer and Bible reading.”

392 posted on 06/27/2002 8:38:12 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: libertyman
Your opinion is about as useful as mammaries on a bull!! You and your ilk are part of the problem -- not the solution.
393 posted on 06/27/2002 8:42:38 AM PDT by Patriotic Bostonian
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To: nunya bidness
The 9th circuit handed the Republicans a gift in its decision.

Haway the Lads, Jim!

This is a gift for us! Let the clueless clowns over at Lew Rockwell Dot Com cheer on this decision. It strikes at the heart of an American Institution. Indeed, this could become the political equivalent of the 1994 Baseball Strike.

Outstanding.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

394 posted on 06/27/2002 8:51:05 AM PDT by section9
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To: Jim Robinson
   Might I ask how many here would have no problem with a child reciting the Pledge, while revising to fit their religion...(under Allah, under Buddha, omitting that phrase altogether, whatever)?

   And how many honestly believe that child's beliefs would be respectfully honored in the 'public school' environment?

   To draft a Constitutional Amendment requiring recital, in this current form, would be a travesty; and the ruling is proper, if it only bars mandatory recitation. If anyone wishes to voluntarily recite the Pledge, more power to them. If I want to (as someone did earlier in the thread) post here, "God Bless America.", I can do that; but to require attendance, and require and/or enforce recitation, would be contrary to the intent of the Constitution.

   Would I be thrown out of the Supreme Court, or Congress, were I to refuse to close my eyes and bow my head during their morning prayer? If so, that, too, would be a mockery of the individual liberty the Constitution is designed to protect.

395 posted on 06/27/2002 8:53:45 AM PDT by Le-Roy
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To: restornu
I've never experienced that.
What web browser are you using (I use Internet Explorer Version 6.0) and what size font are you using...?

You could ask John Robinson... :o)

396 posted on 06/27/2002 8:53:53 AM PDT by blackie
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To: Jim Robinson; deport
Interesting message to ponder Jim.

As for the liberal university thing, one way to protest this is just by not sending one's kids to a public university. Private Universities, especially Christian ones, are well worth the extra money.

397 posted on 06/27/2002 8:55:21 AM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Jim Robinson
The liberals are using the Senate now like the Mafia used certain union positions in NY. They found ONE (1) position (I think it was zippers, the zipper fitters.. funny as that sounds.) that could bring the whole factory to a standstill. That's exactly what they are doing to our judiciary and THAT'S enough reason to vote for Dubya.

Personally, I hope all this unconservative garbage we see from the administration has it's roots in an attempt to buy back our damn Senate. And while I may not agree with the methods, it's impossible to argue with the motive.

398 posted on 06/27/2002 8:56:06 AM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Jim Robinson
http://home.att.net/~poofcatt/ july.html
399 posted on 06/27/2002 9:03:18 AM PDT by WSGilcrest
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To: Jim Robinson
Go Jim!! Amen!!!!
400 posted on 06/27/2002 9:03:38 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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