Vanity: The Pledge of Allegiance is Unconstitutional - If That Doesn't Convince You What Will?

June 26, 2002 | Jim Robinson

[hobbes1]

Thanx. Sometimes it really helps to be an Evil P*ick at heart...lol

[UncleJeff]

In this country we enjoy freedom OF religion. Not freedom FROM religion. Get it?

They are the same thing when it comes to the use of Government power and tax dollars. While you are free to practice almost any religion you choose, if tax dollars extorted from you by threat of force are used to support any religion you do not have "freedom OF religion".

[hobbes1]

And the Pledge imposes Religion, in exactly what way?

[HiTech RedNeck]

What they see occurring here is the "better to elect moderate Republicans than moderate Dems" mindset. That's is just plain foolishness; we already know that moderate R's vote lockstep with liberal D's.

Er... there have been a lot of party line, or near party line, votes on clear liberal/conservative issues. And the battle is most intense when it comes to the courts, because they wield so much power. Why else would Senate Judiciary Committee Democrats so doggedly keep Bush's judicial nominees bottled up in committee? Surely it is not always because the Democrats on that committee all disagree with the proposed judge... all it would take would be one Democrat to break and side with the Republicans to free up the logjam.

[RollingThunder]

Unfortunately, This is just a continuance of A group of judges that do not care about morals, or anything else. Remember, over 90% of their rulings have been overturned. This just shows us how grossly stupid the extremist liberals are and what they will try to do to get their way.

[B Knotts]

From this day forward I am a Bush-bot and proud of it!

OK...while I agree with pretty much everything you've said here, I hope your definition of "Bush-bot" is different from mine. Because someone who always supports the president, and never criticizes him or his administration is acting in a counter-productive manner.

The administration has a lot of people in it. The president needs our feedback when they go astray. Failure to provide this in the 1970s when Nixon was giving us abominations like "Wage & Price Controls" is what got us into this mess to begin with, and is what got us this particular judge.

So, yes, we should all try to get Republicans elected, and regain the Senate, but, no, we should not become "Bush-bots."

I also think we ought to get these two judges impeached!

[Abundy]

Hey Laz - check out #293

[hobbes1]

That, for me, is the most piss in the eyeballs maddening part. NOT ONE NEWS ORGINIZATION has been pointing out that the 9th circuit is pretty much considered a Rogue Court by SCOTUS.....

[Chairman_December_19th_Society]

This is an open plea to all FReepers, and pardon me if it has been posted on this thread already.

Write your Congresscritters, send it by fax (it'll take weeks by snail mail - anthrax checking). Tell them you want a Constitutional Amendment so no court can ever do this again!!

A suggested form for the Amendment follows:

Article 1: There shall be allowed a Pledge of Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and it will take the form:

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation, under God, with liberty, and justice, for all."

Article 2: Congress shall enact the necessary legislation to effect the language of this Amendment.

Article 3: This Article will become a part of the Constitution of the United States with the concurrence of three-fourths of the several states within seven years of its submission thereto by the Congress.

[HiTech RedNeck]

She got him to acknowledge that his daughter says the Pledge of Allegiance WITH all the words! Because"my daughter can do anything she wants"

Looks like that is one daughter that is sick of her dad's world famous nuttiness. Good for her.

[bleudevil]

That's the point I was trying to get at.

[Billie]

Thanks for the ping, JH. Thanks for writing this, Jim. Know there are many FReepers who are NOT Republicans, but Republicans are still our only hope in getting rid of the liberals, and we need so badly to take back control of the Senate this November.

[JohnHuang2]

You're more than welcome, friend -- and Good morning =^)

[HiTech RedNeck]

Remember, over 90% of their rulings have been overturned.

I think this means 90% of their rulings that have gotten called up by the Supreme Court... still, that's a ghastly large number.

[hobbes1]

IS it really necesssary to Amend the Cconstitution for that?

This decision will be overturned by SCOTUS.

IF you are going to go thru all the trouble of amending the Constitution, go the Whole Hog, and add the founding principles from the DOI.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

[B Knotts]

Very well said. That's the point I was trying to make, but
you have said it much better.

[NMC EXP]

In summary, the judges and/or council of judges of the court in question are expected to police themselves even to the point of recommending impeachment.

Marvelous.

Not long ago problems like this, for both plaintiff and judges, would have been corrected with fence rails, tar and feathers.

Now the annointed ones in black robes judge each other.

Regards

J.R.

[Abundy]

Thank you. For the record, I abhor this decision and I'm not some DU disruptor or anti-American jackass - regardless of what some of the shills here will tell you.

[HiTech RedNeck]

The administration has a lot of people in it. The president needs our feedback when they go astray. Failure to provide this in the 1970s when Nixon was giving us abominations like "Wage & Price Controls" is what got us into this mess to begin with, and is what got us this particular judge.

I think if it had been possible to freep Nixon, much of this nonsense would never have occurred. It is with the Internet the same as was first transmitted on the telegraph... What hath God wrought?

[Chairman_December_19th_Society]

IS it really necesssary to Amend the Cconstitution for that?

This decision will be overturned by SCOTUS.

Yes, my friend, it is.

Read today's Washington Post.

Here is only a one paragraph excerpt of the view from the left, followed by a link to the whole distasteful article:Although the 9th Circuit is the most liberal federal appeals court in the country -- its rulings are frequently reversed by the more conservative Supreme Court -- legal analysts from across the ideological spectrum said yesterday that it was not stretching the high court's past cases.

[Emphasis added.]

U.S. Court Votes to Bar Pledge of Allegiance - Use of 'God' Called Unconstitutional

We must make sure they can NEVER EVER do this again!!!