Vanity: The Pledge of Allegiance is Unconstitutional - If That Doesn't Convince You What Will?

June 26, 2002 | Jim Robinson

[eeriegeno]

Right on Jim.... We have to remember this fall that the liberal democrats blocked Bush's judicial appointees through inaction which allowed this senile liberal judge to be brought back from retirement to make this ridiculous decision. The inaction by the Senate should be screamed as a campaign issue to oust the liberal democrats.

[P-Marlowe]

Regarding this pledge, I would suggest that each of us who have children encourage our children to SHOUT the words "under God!!!" each and every time the new - court revised - pledge is spoken in the public schools. And then when they are done saying it, lets all encourage them all to yell out a hearty AMEN! Lets see if the courts can stop that kind of expression.

[Miss Marple]

This Nedenow guy first filed this suit in Florida, where it was thrown out. He then moved to California to get a friendlier court (read nuttier court). He also wants the "In God We Trust" off the money, and he filed suit against the President to get him to stop mentioning God in his speeches. He is not going to quit, obviously, since someone who would do such things borders on being obsessed. Since he has had this little smidgen of success, others will follow in other parts of the country.

Thus, Jim is absolutely correct that we need to get more conservative judges appointed, and that means taking back the Senate and re-electing the President. The Rats know the judiciary is their key to power, and that is why they are holding up appointments. I want to thank Jim for calling this to people's attention. It is the most important thing we can accomplish for our country.

[HiTech RedNeck]

someone who would do such things borders on being is definitely obsessed

[bleudevil]

In this country we enjoy freedom OF religion. Not freedom FROM religion. Get it?

Yes, we do have freedom from religion, if we want it. If an American adult doesn't want to go to a house of worship or to tithe, no one can make him. You have the right to knock on my door and tell me about your religion and I have the right to say no thanks.

What do you really mean when you say we don't have "freedom from religion"? That every American must have a religion, but has the freedom to choose which one? I don't think so.

[JohnPaulJones]

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[brityank]

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[Amelia]

Well said, Jim.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Why is the artwork on a little blue patch on the chest? It ought to loudly and proudly cover the entire front of the shirt!

[steve-b]

The pledge is not mandatory; by logic, what else could it be? Though the onus clearly is on the parent teacher to explain this.

Just a correction, to name the person in charge of the moment-to-moment management of the classroom.

[capydick]

I'm with you Jimbo. My fervent hope is that conservative members of the House and Senate blanket the news shows with statements that this is what the country gets when Dasshole holds up President Bush's judicial appointments. And - just as American's want to "connect the dots" to understand how we got 9/11 - American's need to "connect the dots" to understand how we get judges who come up these kind of decisions in our judicial system. They dont just show up and get the job, it's the liberal Democrats that put them there and its the liberal press that acts as their consigliere. Although it's been said quite a few times, it really is time for America to wake up and smell the coffee.

[JohnPaulJones]

I'll change it!

[Lazamataz]

This *was* a wakeup call.

I will meet you half-way: I will vote for GW Bush and Republicans no matter if they do act liberally, AND I will still bitch and yell at them and hold their feet to the fire when they act like liberals.

[HiTech RedNeck]

What do you really mean when you say we don't have "freedom from religion"? That every American must have a religion, but has the freedom to choose which one? I don't think so.

No, Bleu. This does not mean every American must have a religion, it simply means that our representatives do not have to hide their religious viewpoint from the public. It means that we refuse to tilt at windmills (like Newdow constantly does) such as the suit to try to stop President Bush's speaking about Jesus Christ at his official appearances.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Two words: parental responsibility. The teachers are not there to tell a child he can be the personal king or queen of his or her own little world; however they do have to respect the parents' wishes. They cannot elaborate on what "under God" ought to mean.

[hobbes1]

The message you should send is one by pen and ink, or by phone calls and personal meetings.

Speaking of which, I hope many of you will join me, in writing to the Elk Grove School District Superintendant...

Text I sent This AM...

Mr. Superintendent.
Good Morning.

While the 9th circuit opinion is being (rightfully) appealed, kindly allow me to suggest that in place of the Pledge of Allegiance, and in accordance with California State Law, that mandates an appropriate Patriotic Exercise, the following paragraph from the Declaration of Independence be substituted.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed"
A lesson in patriotism, and a lesson in the law of unintended consequences for the thorn in your side.

Good Luck in your appeal, and my condolences on having to spend your time dealing with such nonsense.

Supt   DGORDON@edcenter.egusd.k12.ca.us
Chief of Staff   mcavanau@edcenter.egusd.k12.ca.us

[maica]

Phone calls to the in state offices of your senators and representatives help, too. You will express your opinion - consider it a free pool opinion - and every voice counts.

For any who might be wondering, the office numbers of your local congressmen are in your phonebook.

[PogySailor]

Yes. That is the danger as I see it. The ultimate goal is to remove the "dangerous" idea that there is any authority higher than the government. 
Newdow has made the statement (paraphrasing here) that not only was he offended by the teacher leading the pledge, but that his daughter has to hear the very word "God" mentioned. Notice also that it's not just enough that the pledge isn't lead by the school, he also wants it changed BY LAW to remove the words so that even students can't mention the foul word as protest:

Newdow said he believes that the Pledge of Allegiance should be completely rewritten so that students and others could not inject "under God" as an act of protest to the court ruling.

[Joe Brower]