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Man who sued to stop pledge explains reasons for suit
SF Chronicle via AP ^ | 6/26/02 | STEFANIE FRITH

Posted on 06/26/2002 5:52:22 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:40:26 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: DensaMensa
Newdow ??? Now what kind of name is that???

Most likely Polish, possibly anglicized from Nevedovsky.

41 posted on 06/26/2002 6:19:38 PM PDT by dighton
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To: grlfrnd
Thank you Mr NEW DOW. How would you like a one-way ticket
to Beijing?? you wont ever have to hear the word "GOD" again-
Jerk !!
42 posted on 06/26/2002 6:20:51 PM PDT by Minutemen
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To: grlfrnd
Why is it that the left is always so intolerant?
43 posted on 06/26/2002 6:21:15 PM PDT by TheLooseThread
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To: grlfrnd
"I expect this will be a much challenged and difficult change," she said. "Following 9-11, there are very strong feelings from families about allegiance to America, and there is such diversity in our schools, it will be a difficult change."

Can't they just say the Pledge without the "under God" phrase? Isn't that the way it was before 1954? We were able to win WWII without it, and people can still worship privately or silently any time they wish.

44 posted on 06/26/2002 6:21:32 PM PDT by Moonman62
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To: grlfrnd
Notice he's no longer in Flori-DUH? Maybe, ran outta town?

I wonder which ER this quack malpractices in?

45 posted on 06/26/2002 6:23:18 PM PDT by Thumper1960
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To: grlfrnd
We are under God. One day Newdow will do a NewBow - when he bows his knee to the One he would today deny. Newdow, the 9th Circuit, nor anyone else or thing can change that. And Newdow will lose his tongue (be dumb) when it come to arguing his case before the Almighty in that day. And the Judges of the 9th Circuit will be judged in the day that they each must bow the knee.
46 posted on 06/26/2002 6:23:21 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: AppyPappy
He said he did it, too, so his daughter wouldn't feel left out.

I bet she has a swell day at school when she goes back.

47 posted on 06/26/2002 6:23:30 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: grlfrnd
Sacramento atheist Michael Newdow said Wednesday he was trying to restore the Pledge of Allegiance to its pre-1954 version because no one should be forced to worship a religion in which they don't believe.

Ah. I see - he is a "patriot" in the mold of Larry Flint. The atheist Taliban always claims patriotism when attempting to destroy our foundations.

48 posted on 06/26/2002 6:24:33 PM PDT by Hacksaw
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To: grlfrnd
What kind of person thinks it is OK to defend the inclusion of the words "under god" by calling this man up and threatening his life?
49 posted on 06/26/2002 6:24:48 PM PDT by mlo
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To: grlfrnd
He's on H&C now
50 posted on 06/26/2002 6:24:55 PM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: grlfrnd
Hey, if he is dead tomorrow, oh well. Serves him right. I know that is harsh, but if some person full of violence and rage strikes out at him, I won't be upset.


51 posted on 06/26/2002 6:25:14 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: grlfrnd
Interesting tidbit from Newt Gingrich on Hannity and Colmes -- seems this Nixon appointed judge was brought back to the bench after retirement because the Senate won't approve Pres Bush's nominees for the 9th Circuit!

I would assume that Boxer and Feinstein don't like the appointees. If Pres Bush's appointees had been approved by the Senate, this Nixon judge would not have been there to making this assinine ruling!
52 posted on 06/26/2002 6:26:07 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: clintonh8r
Jerk is now using the Constitution as justification. I wonder where he stands on 2nd Amendment?
54 posted on 06/26/2002 6:26:51 PM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: small voice in the wilderness
I hope he doesn't make it through the night...When does the part about protecting the contry from both foreign and domestic enemies kick in anyway? How much more of this crap are we supposed to take?

I told my wife about this guy and the ruling earlier..Her thoughts were this combined with a possible July 4 attack(s) will make this country explode. Can't say that I could really blame any patriots either..

55 posted on 06/26/2002 6:26:57 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: grlfrnd
from Florida to California, eh? ... guess he's just one busy little beaver all over the country ... I suggest we appoint him our new ambassador to, ummm, say Iraq or something like that ...
56 posted on 06/26/2002 6:30:59 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: unix
Lest we forget---

The Declaration of Independence of the Thirteen Colonies
In CONGRESS, July 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. --Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain [George III] is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us, in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by the Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

The signers of the Declaration represented the new states as follows:
New Hampshire:
Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple, Matthew Thornton
Massachusetts:
John Hancock, Samual Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry
Rhode Island:
Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery
Connecticut:
Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott

New York:
William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris
New Jersey:
Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark
Pennsylvania:
Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross
Delaware:
Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean
Maryland:
Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton
Virginia:
George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton
North Carolina:
William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn
South Carolina:
Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton
Georgia:
Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton
57 posted on 06/26/2002 6:31:05 PM PDT by John W
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To: grlfrnd
They interviewed this idiot (Newdow) today on Fox News. They asked him if he was afraid that there would be physical retaliation. He said "Yes". They then asked him what he was doing about it and he said "Hoping - and PRAYING". Can you believe this piece of garbage???
58 posted on 06/26/2002 6:37:24 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: John W
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights

Darwinism is evolution. God wins!!!

60 posted on 06/26/2002 6:37:51 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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