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To: HiTech RedNeck
Clueless you... it is a well established decision that those whose religion forbids pledging to flags (e.g. Jehovah's Witnesses) are not harmed by being allowed to remain silent while the (gasp) TEACHER leads the rest of the class.

The decision says there is harm. If I have to come down on one side or the other I say it is right.

Let's turn it right back on you: what kind of nonfaith do you have, that a so called "superstition" can rouse you so? Were the teacher to lead a recitation about the Easter Bunny or Santa Claus would you be so upset? Maybe the "superstition" is rousing things in your conscience you don't want to hear?

Rouse me? It's not me talking about how enraged I am, that's the other side. I'm only arguing my views on an issue I hadn't given a second thought to before today. Trust me, I'm not riled. My arguements are valid though. It is those you should address.

118 posted on 06/26/2002 4:38:24 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo
Oh my, because mlo says his "argu[e]ments" are valid, they are valid. Never mind a mountain of legal and cultural precedent otherwise.
121 posted on 06/26/2002 4:39:35 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: mlo
Oh and I didn't accuse you of being "enraged" but "upset." Funny you should see it as enraged... Freudian slip? Something is moving you to click that mouse and hit those keys. What is it?
126 posted on 06/26/2002 4:41:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: mlo
IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

[snip]

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

Hmmm, looks to me as if the Declaration of Independence might be Unconstitutional, ya think?

137 posted on 06/26/2002 4:51:31 PM PDT by Amelia
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