[Jeff Head]

FYI ... please help turn this into an effort that exceeds the Flag Raising petition.

[ImaGraftedBranch]

Already done - #181 on the petition!

[stand 4 something]

I gladly signed it.

[Zon]

A petition to get government out of the education "business" which it is unconstitutionally for the government to be engaged in would solve all government-education problems if the petition was honored.

The people may win the POA petition but that's a drop in the ocean and there's a monsoon going on.

[Ted]

Signed/bumped for America's well being.

[.45MAN]

How many times can I sign? This is crazy!!!

[Dengar01]

Here is another petiton that I am getting signed it is for the Paul Revere Society. The leader is Michael Savage the fastest growing radio talk show host in the country. He has battled the "9th jerkit court of schalmiels" for years go to his website at http://www.michaelsavage.com

[FReethesheeples]

A new and very important historical and legal book, which, according to Judge Bork and Prof. Calabrese of Northwestern Univ. Law School, should lead to a much more informed interpretation of the First Amendment's "Establishment (of religion) Clause is Phillip Hamburger's "The Separation of Church adn State." Hamburger shows how the Founders, with the possible excepotion of Jeffferson \,w ho was opposed to Federalist preachers preaching against him, never inteeended to have the Establishment Clause restrict Religious Speech, so that the 1st Amendmenet's Fress Speech Clause does NOT contradict the Establishment Caluse, which was simply to prohibit a National State religion, as in the Church of England, or the State Religion of many Islamic states.

Also, Tom Jipping wrote an effective booklet to this sam,e point: "The First Amendment: Does the Free Speech Clause Conflict with the Establishment Clause?" [Approximate title.] [His answer was "no," based upon historical adn legal scholarship. In fact, for years in the early 19th Century 12 of the 13 Colonies had official Staate religions: the Library of Congress did an xtensive exhibit on this a few eyars ago called "religion and the Foounding of the American Republic"; Maryland was Catholic; NJ was Presbyterian, other states were Congregationalist, Presbyterian, Episcopalian, Baptist, Methodist, and several other denominations. Thi\us the First Aemndment was intended to prohibit ONLY the establishemtn of a National Religion or National Church.]

Hamburger's book shows that today's radical reinterpretation of the Extablishment Clause, which effectively limitis much religious speech in public forums, was formualted int the mid-19th Century in a period of paradoid anti-Catholic sentiment.

Jefferson was the soel "eccentiric" Founder who wanted to limit the speech of Federalist preachers who were preaching against him, Jefferson.

The 1805(?) letter to the Danbury Baptists, written by Jefferson, only became part of the "constitution" in the mid_late !(th century due to rising antti_cathoilic political views broought into the courtroom>