9TH CIRCUIT COURT: PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL

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[Recovering_Democrat]

UNBELIEVABLE. BREAKING ON FOX: SF APPEALS COURT SAYS PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ENDORSES RELIGION, AND IS THEREBY UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

[Toirdhealbheach Beucail]

Sigh...Time to start pushing for school choice again. Be damned if I allow my daughters to get educated in a education system that doesn't teach them to love their country...

My bet? Put school choice into effect and you'll see an exodus of parents pulling their kids out of any school that goes full speed ahead with this ruling.

[NeoCrusade]

That's all well and good that that Bush and Daschle are apparently against this ruling, but they don't matter a whit. Can we say Supreme Court? Hello?

[freedomcrusader]

OK, but if atheists are going to cross out "In God We Trust" on paper currency, then they'll understand if I write/stamp "I love Jesus" on it.

[aristeides]

Just tuned in to the Senate on C-SPAN. Who's speaking? I appears to be saying that Daschle is introducing something that disapproves of what the 9th Circuit just did. Unless it's a constitutional amendment, I don't see that it would have legal force.

[AmishDude]

You may urinate by yourself. I am not the least bit interested in a competition.

And even though such a contest doesn't measure it, I am sure you will have copious amounts of bodily waste.

[Howlin]

I'm glad they got their view out FIRST, before the apologists come on the news.

[gdani]

Can we say Supreme Court? Hello?

No - It was remanded. This is a recording.......

[Helix]

Thank you for the update! My TV is downstairs and I'm not able to watch it and FR at the same time. :(

[Lazamataz]

And freedom of religion is a right specifically mentioned in our Constitution, a right "incorporated" by the US Supreme Court, and not in any way unalienable, as seen throughout history, as even seen in our country.

You are refuted by your own words.

Freedom of religion.

Not freedom from religion.

[Mo1]

I'm having a hard time find the Toll Free Number for Congress .. you have it???

[aristeides]

Sen. Byrd now up, referring to Declaration of Independence.

[stanz]

I happen to agree, but it never really bothered me whether or not the words "under God" were included or not.
I can remember when Dwight Eisenhower added those words- - -and you thought I was a Spring chicken!
At any rate, we Americans all have so many things to worry about - - that is the least of them. I'll pledge allegiance if I have to do it in Italian!

[On Alert]

What ever way was respectable and would satisfy the minority.

[laconic]

This is exactly what happened in Russia in 1917, only a lot quicker. Start by destroying your history, culture and self-worth; infiltrate schools, workplaces, the Army in an attempt to demoralize and ruin institutions that are the backbone of the country. Make up lies about historical figures and replace the religious establishment with phonies, whores of the Bolsheviks. It took 70 years, but the Russians are finally regaining what was stolen from them by rebuilding churches, repossessing museums, restoring Peter the Great and other Russian heroes to their appropriate place and rendering Bolshevism where it belongs: to the ashheap of history (no one but tourists and a few old folks visit the tomb of the murderous embalmed pig Lenin in Red Square and the "museum of the revolution" now has truthful explanations below the communist exhibits). How unfortunate that Bolshevism (and its true expression in the trashy decade called "the Sixties") now appears to have roosted here in our own judicial system.

[Viva Le Dissention]

An unalienable right cannot be taken away by government.

Freedom of religion CAN be taken away by government. Therefore it is NOT an unalienable right.

Life, liberty, pursuit of happiness--despite the actions of government, the individual is always the determinant of his destiny and course of action, even in prison.

That just isn't true with freedom of religion. It's specific, not a broad philosophical concept like "life, et al."

[Dimensio]

I find that a perfectly acceptable modification to the existing Pledge of Allegiance. I'm sure that no one will take offense, except for Jehova's Witnesses because they aren't supposed to make pledges to any "graven images" regardless of the wording used (and in that case it's clearly a matter of their religion prohibiting the act rather than the act being an implicit endorsement of a religion).

Perhaps we should propose it to Congress?

Now to get on with the currency. How about "In at least one god some of us trust, and sorry if we weren't supposed to say that."

[Lazamataz]

Finally! Bush does something kinda conservative!

I, for one, am overjoyed he did!

[gdani]

I appears to be saying that Daschle is introducing something that disapproves of what the 9th Circuit just did. Unless it's a constitutional amendment, I don't see that it would have legal force.

Correct. Most likely it's just a resolution. No legal force whatsoever.

[Babsig]

Can Congress impeach federal judges? They sure need to take look at a few. Oh, now Sen Bird is on - Saying that the Fed Judge should read the Dec of Ind. Guess all even the wacko libs can't agree with this one. He says the judge should not be a judge.