I will never buy another single product from Ruger again. He sold out part of the American peoples' 2nd Amendment rights to better his own business and put money in his own pockets.
All Americans now have the high capacity magazine legacy to deal with thanks to this back stabber. This is why I would buy a Smith and Wesson product anyday over Ruger.
To: *bang_list
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Sugarmann had devised a scathingly brilliant strategy, for all any of us wound up doing was getting the mainstream media to create the term "assault weapon," Sugarmann is very good at this - his was the first use of the now-notorious phrase "gunshow loophole" and for some time he has been attempting to create a new category of concealable pistols to regulate under the neologism "pocket rocket." The latter is, to my knowledge, his only propagandic setback to date.
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
While Dean Spier and his evil twin Waldo Lydecker are usually spot-on, I do think his comparison of Bill Ruger to Hitler appeaser Nevile Chamberlain is inappropriate.
A better example would be Norwegian collaborator Vidkun Quisling, who actively worked with the Nazis who invaded his country and acted as a figurehead for him. That's Bill Ruger's legacy to America and Americans.
Bill Ruger
6 posted on
06/26/2002 11:44:51 AM PDT by
archy
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Oh, come on! Mr. Ruger might have made a bad mistake, but this is not anywhere near as bad as the Smith & Wesson deal with the Clinton administration. Smith & Wesson willingly entered into that arrangement (knowing full well) that they were undermining the decision of the other firearms manufacturers to fight it!
There is no comparison. I will not buy a Smith & Wesson product again, until the company admits that the Clinton deal was wrong, and issues a public apology to all American gun owners!! In the meantime if S&W goes out of business, so what? STI kicks their ass anyway!
Personally, I will gladly continue to support Ruger. There is a difference in a mistake, and willful deception. If you turn a blind eye, and support Smith & Wesson in spite of what they've done, then you are a Smith & Wesson groupie- not a 2nd Amendment Defender!
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Sad; especailly because I love Rugers. In our socio/political climate, all Big Businesses become fascist -they can't seem to help themselves.
No matter - I'll keep my magazines, and the guns that use them, no matter what loathsome, unconstitutional laws our ilegitimate legislators pass.
14 posted on
06/26/2002 12:43:47 PM PDT by
agrandis
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
You want a Smith? Ask them where they stand on their "agreement" with HUD.
They'll say (direct quote here): "It's not being enforced."
So you ask again (as I did): "But have you repudiated the agreement?" and again I hear, "It's not being enforced."
Not until the next Dimocrat takes office, Stupah!
15 posted on
06/26/2002 1:08:05 PM PDT by
Redbob
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
I don't like what they did, but I love my 6" stainless Ruger GP-100 and my Ruger 10/22 with 60 round clip. Although it is a pain to load the .22, they are both some of the best guns I've ever owned.
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
The answer is the CZ-75B. Dependable and accurate and high-cap mags can still be had for $40.
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Water under the bridge, time marches on, tomorrow is another day. A long time ago, a man tried to deal with the anti-gunners.
If the gun owners would spend their time fighting against the gun grabbers instead of fighting among ourselves, we wouldn't have gun control.
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Goodbye Ruger. Hello Glock. Or Para-Ordinance P14-45, P16-40.
33 posted on
06/28/2002 10:26:34 AM PDT by
4CJ
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
The high capacity magazine ban has no teeth. On any given day you can find scores of adds that read like, "High Capacity Mags, limited stock, soon these will no longer be available". The latest pitch is, "can not be shipped to California or New York." It is a marketing pitch, eveyone wants something that those liberal kooks in CA and NY are not allowed to have.
These adds have been running for over ten years and still you can find bushels of high capacity mags at gun shows, on the internet, in gun shops, surplus stores, and just about any place guns and ammo are sold except Kmart. The truth is everyone that wants one already has one and probability has many more of them due to the low price and availability.
Strangely or not so strangely you rarely see anyone at a shooting range using these things. They are awkward is the usual reason. Plinkers will use high capacity mags when they are out to waste lots of ammo shooting tin cans or an old muffler stuck on a fence post.
Better get some high capacity mags before they are all gone ! Don't try to sell them to me, I already have plenty and don't use them for anything. Anyway, the law still sucks, that is why I bought them in the first place.
34 posted on
06/28/2002 7:10:43 PM PDT by
SSN558
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
A couple years ago, I bought a S&W Model 22A rather than a Ruger Mark II because of Ruger's actions back in 1990. Then a few days later, S&W signed a contract with the devil so I sold the S&W and got a Mark II. While I'm not keen on Ruger's earlier actions, I do perceive that they've learned from the aftermath that the gun banners are not to be trusted, and that playing nice with the gun banners will not sate their appetite but merely increase it.
35 posted on
06/28/2002 9:51:02 PM PDT by
supercat
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
My Ruger got swiped. It was my most favorite. Now what do I do?
36 posted on
06/28/2002 10:40:44 PM PDT by
Deb
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
I'm so confuse-ed!!
Do I not buy the SP101 but keep the loose barreled S&W40 or do I sell the Baretta and get a Dick Wesson??
Who's on first?
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
I'll have to think about this considering my pistols are almost exclusively Ruger wheelguns.
Maybe it's time for a 460XVR.
43 posted on
12/21/2006 4:04:16 PM PST by
Centurion2000
(Gov't: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it)
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
I don't own a Ruger or SW. Let me know when Colt, Browning, Taurus, Bersa or Charter Arms does something evil.
44 posted on
12/21/2006 4:17:42 PM PST by
chesty_puller
(USMC 70-73 3MAF VN 70-71 US Army 75-79 3d Inf Old Guard)
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
The good ole days were when you could shoot an ape with a .44 and use the picture in an ad.
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