;-)
Seriously though, that thread and the link that grundle posted in his number 9 post on this thread were really interesting, the latter one especially. It's interesting to see the way the left react when presented with facts. Especially on the environment. They just can't seem to get their minds around simple concepts.
One point they were hitting on a lot is "Hong Kong has reached an "unsustainable" level of population because the land they have can't possibly be made to feed them all." (Well, as far as that goes, so has New York City- so where does the food come from?) But they seem to take the attitude that "since Hong Kong imports food (ie exports money), they must obviously be taking the food away from somebody else."
It's like they can simply not grasp the concept of "creation of wealth" and the laws of supply and demand. There might be a Nobel Prize in this somewhere. Maybe some neuroscientist can show that the reason lefties are lefties is because they are lacking some synapses in the brain that render them incapable of understanding rational rules and cause and effect. "Africa is poor because we made them poor? We took all there wealth away?" I don't think so.