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To: grundle
Thanks for the compliments, Prodigal Son and WindMinstrel.

Hey- no sweat. I knew that Fred couldn't have been a true lefty. But it was refreshing still to have read some sane comments over there. They used to have a fellow that went by the handle of Mike Galos that always posted in their Foreign Affairs/National Security (where they keep their Israel/Palestine debate hidden) who was really sane and just kept beating people down with facts (against the Palestinians) but I note he hasn't been around there in a long time and I figure he got banned.

When I first read your post over there, I thought you must have been using the Skeptical Environmentalist for a source of your info but then you used a different one and I thought that was very clever because citing Bjorn Lomborg would have gotten you busted right away. Was that intentional on your part? Your source (from that post), BTW, I believe Lomborg actually set out to prove that particular person wrong and actually realized the data bore out his claims- if I'm not mistaken- and that's why he wrote Skeptical Environmentalist.

11 posted on 06/28/2002 3:42:52 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
I deliberately avoided mentioning Lomborg at first, but I did mention him later on. And yes, most of the people there hate him. But all they do is wage personal attacks on him, and post links to anti-lomborg websites, and copy things from those websites. No one there has ever actually criticized Lomborg in their own words, because they haven't actually read his book.

My link to The Economist with the statistics on increasing food produciton is actually from an article written by Lomborg.

Lomborg did indeed originally set out to prove that Julian Simon was wrong. But when Lomborg examined the facts, he realized that Simon was right. Julian Simon's most famous book is called "The Ultimate Resource 2." He also has a book called "It's Getting Better All The Time."

There are only two regular long term posters at DU who have actually read Lomborg's book, and both of them agree with Lomborg. But I won't mention their handles, because I don't want to put them at risk.

I'm just blown away that they would delete my handle for telling the truth. I was being polite and civil. I wasn't swearing. I followed all of their posting guidelines.

Julian Simon made two predictions for the 21st century before he died:

#1 Things would keep getting better.

#2 People would continue to complain that things were getting worse.
12 posted on 06/28/2002 4:09:17 PM PDT by grundle
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