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What Are Leftists?
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | June, 20 2002 | John J. Ray

Posted on 06/25/2002 12:42:28 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Very thought-provoking, thank you for posting this.
41 posted on 06/27/2002 11:28:13 AM PDT by walden
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
Interesting and amusing comments!

Thanks for posting them on the thread!

42 posted on 06/27/2002 12:35:33 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Pagey
They have no problem telling YOU what their angle is.That's having brass ones
Hitler did that too. Mein Kampf laid out everything he was planning to do. It became a best seller as he started accumulating some power. It was read outside of Germany.

No one took it seriously.

43 posted on 06/29/2002 5:48:33 PM PDT by Dales
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Hayek refered to them as those that foster Rationalist Totalitarian Democracy.

I might suggest you try Chapter Four from his Constitution of Liberty>

44 posted on 06/29/2002 6:02:12 PM PDT by KC Burke
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Hayek refered to them as those that foster Rationalist Totalitarian Democracy.

I might suggest you try Chapter Four from his Constitution of Liberty>

45 posted on 06/29/2002 6:02:14 PM PDT by KC Burke
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To: supercat
Not a bad article, though I think leftism vs. conservatism may be perhaps most simply summed up by dividing people into three groups:
  1. Those who want others to take care of them.
  2. Those who want to take care of (and control) themselves.
  3. Those who want to "take care of" and control others.
Types #1 and #3 vote leftist, for opposite reasons; both groups hate #2, which tends to vote conservative.

One additional difference, which may explain why Leftists are attracted to academia, government, and the press: Leftists tend to be very articulate and adept at intrigue and organizational politics. They are very "verbally-oriented". They thus prefer a system wherein success is determined by articulateness and the ability to manipulate people (government, large corporate environments) than by the ability to actually produce things (engineering & software), and where decisions may have to rely on inarticulable hunches (small business)

46 posted on 06/30/2002 7:42:22 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: SauronOfMordor
Good points!

BTTT!

47 posted on 06/30/2002 10:09:06 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: SauronOfMordor
One additional difference, which may explain why Leftists are attracted to academia, government, and the press: Leftists tend to be very articulate and adept at intrigue and organizational politics.

More notably, they're attracted to those fields because control of them is necessary in order for them to bury the truth.

48 posted on 06/30/2002 11:50:17 AM PDT by supercat
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To: SauronOfMordor
"...They thus prefer a system wherein success is determined by articulateness and the ability to manipulate people..." You certainly stated that effectively,and you are entirely correct.I have people who work for,and around me,(they are openly Liberal (Insert Cough + Gag Sounds here),and I've had to 'marginalize' a few who've used type of behavior.What they don't understand is my being Rational(and expert at getting my point across looking you in the eye),supercedes their petty attempts at manipulating this company.They can't win w/ someone who's a "Pro" at getting what he wants.
49 posted on 07/02/2002 10:30:30 AM PDT by Pagey
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I just remembered one more ,This one is quite effective against Liberals, when you calmly drop this in mid-converstaion :
"It is easier for Liberals to 'Assign Quotas' than to accept people for their 'Merits and Qualifications' ".


It isn't very easy to get more clear than this.LOL

50 posted on 07/02/2002 10:43:50 AM PDT by Pagey
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To: Pagey
"Anti-Liberal" BUMP
51 posted on 07/02/2002 10:46:03 AM PDT by Pagey
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To: supercat
Right , that was part of the Gramsci Handbook way to take over the US Society!
52 posted on 07/02/2002 11:58:30 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Pagey
Good stuff!

Think I will add these links , most will still work:

Gramsci vs. Tocqueville or Marxism vs. the American Ideology
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3a54bec871fa.htm

The Gramscian Roots of America's Culture War Thread 2 (Is Gramsci the Father of Neo-Conservatism ?)
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a3bc78569bf.htm

Who is Antonio Gramsci? You Better Learn!!!
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3a4c610569be.htm

YATES: "Understanding the Culture War: Gramscians, Tocquevillians and Others"
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3a56d02c2a1b.htm

Original Sin
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3b80051c3e46.htm

53 posted on 07/02/2002 12:02:29 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for those links,I will make time in the evening to peruse them.I will read about that Gramsci character.

Here is a great paragraph from "The Federalist" that I receive via E-Mail:
"Liberalism is easy because at its vile root are abrogation of personal responsibility and the repudiation of self-abnegation undertaken for any reason, no matter how noble. If there is no inherent value in self-abnegation, then any act that does not directly contribute to one's self-interest may be portrayed as irrational. If there is no personal responsibility for one's actions, then any self-interested act may be justified."You just drop things like this into your conversation at they (liberal kooks)get frazzled.

54 posted on 07/02/2002 12:11:52 PM PDT by Pagey
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To: Pagey
Oops,that should be "AS they get frazzled".
55 posted on 07/02/2002 12:22:18 PM PDT by Pagey
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To: Pagey
" Anti-Leftist " BUMP
56 posted on 07/03/2002 11:56:51 AM PDT by Pagey
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To: Pagey
BUMP
57 posted on 07/08/2002 1:07:13 PM PDT by Pagey
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