[billbears]

LOL!! I know and the Essex Junto didn't exist either and Madison I believe wasn't the POTUS that named them possible enemies to the union. And Thomas Pickering didn't exist either. He was just a figment of Jefferson's imagination. No, they didn't exist at all. And the Hartford Convention was just a lodge meeting with the guys to voice their support for how well the government was handling the war with Britain < /sarcasm>

[Non-Sequitur]

Oh keep the sarcasm, be a man, and admit the one big failing in your whole dismal arguement. Repeat after me. Not...One...Of...Those...State s...Tried...To...Rebel...Unlik e...The...Southern...States. Talk is cheap, bill, it's action that exacts the price. The south acted. The south paid the price.