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You are keeping your arm in good shape it seems..... LOL

I agree with you that fraud occurred in the election as it does most times IMO. But I have a hard time buying into a nationwide scheme orchastrated by someone or a group. That's just like the NWO or Burger Builders ruling the world by jerking a few strings. Maybe it happens but I just don't buy into it. I agree that it can happen in selected areas and races....

The following is a listing of final polls and their calls......

Which opinion polls predicted the 2000 Election best?

FINAL PUBLIC OPINION POLLS: AMERICAN ELECTION 2000
		Bush	Gore	Nader	Buchanan *	Lead	Ave
Media (Pollster)	100%	47.6%	47.8%	3.6%	1.0%	-0.2%	Error
CBS	100%	47%	48%	4%	1%	-1%	0.30
Fox (Opinion Dynamics)	100%	48%	48%	3%	1%	0%	0.30
Harris	100%	47%	47%	5%	1%	0%	0.65
CNN/USA Today (Gallup)	99%	48%	46%	4%	1%	2%	0.65
Reuters/MSNBC (Zogby)	100%	46%	48%	5%	1%	-2%	0.80
Pew	100%	49%	47%	4%	0%	2%	0.90
IBD/CSM/TIPP	100%	48%	46%	4%	2%	2%	0.90
ABC	99%	49%	46%	3%	1%	3%	0.90
Washington Post	99%	49%	46%	3%	1%	3%	0.95
NBC/WSJ (Hart/Teeter)	100%	49%	46%	3%	2%	3%	1.20
Newsweek	100%	49%	46%	5%	0%	3%	1.40
Voter.com (Lake/Goeas)	100%	51%	46%	4%	0%	5%	1.65
Marist College	100%	51%	46%	2%	1%	5%	1.70
Hotline	99%	51%	43%	4%	1%	8%	2.15
Rasmussen	100%	52%	43%	4%	1%	9%	2.40
ICR	99%	46%	44%	7%	2%	2%	2.45
Sources: AEI, PollingReport.com, WP,NYT,Gallup,TIPP
Compiled by Robert M. Worcester

According to the list, Rasmussen was one of the biggest "losers", giving Bush a -- what? -- 9% lead in the final poll? And to think I trusted that poll!

I think what happened, if memory serves me correctly, is that few organizations polled over the weekend before the election. Virtually every poll by the Friday before the election showed Bush with a comfortable (beyond margin of error) lead. But the DUI story broke late, and those polls didn't reflect public reaction to the DUI story. Zogby's poll did reflect public reaction, and it showed a surge (2% lead) for Gore. But by election day, the surge for Gore had crested, and the momentum was back toward Bush (hence, the dead-heat). Bush with a 5-9% lead 5 days before the election; the DUI story came out; Gore "surged" to a 2% lead by the weekend (as Zogby showed); but his surge was reversed by the end of the weekend or Monday, and voters started to swing back to Bush (the dead-heat by Tuesday). My theory is that had the election been held on Wednesday, Bush would have won by a full percentage point or two -- the momentum was in Bush's direction.

In regard to voter fraud, I've heard it said that every election has a fraud factor (intentional or accidental) of about 2%. In close elections, the fraud is magnified. But 2% -- that's two million+ votes in a presidential election! And Gore claims to have "won" the popular vote by half-a-million? Hardly. That claim, despite the "final numbers" is falacious, IMHO.

Where are Harry Browne's numbers??? Surely there has been a mistake.

Actually, you shouldn't have that much of a hard time buying into a conspiracy.

Remember, vote fraud was concentrated in urban areas where Democrats had a tradition of such things. The last Republican political machine died a long, long time ago.

Donna Brazile organized the get out the vote effort on the part of the Democrats. That's fine. But it would not take too much effort to organize a national effort at vote fraud. All one would have to do is to communicate through internet newsgroups or encrypted communications to make sure that all the critical machine operators are on the same page.

And you had Zogby for cover. His was the only one that had Gore ahead by the margin. Everyone else was off. EVERYONE! Why?

And it almost worked. Except some party hack screwed up in Florida. Common Tator posted a description of what probably happened. It has to do with duplicate voter registration lists. And someone screwed up when the first exit polls came out showing Gore up two in Florida. They didn't pad the polls because they didn't think they needed to pad the polls.

Oh, one last thing. Down here in Florida, those of us who thought about it long enough figured out that there's only one way to get a dimpled chand in a ballot card. A dimpled chad is from a card that was on the bottom of a stack of blank ballots that the Goron stooge didn't punch all the way through.

That's how it happened.

Be Seeing You,

Chris