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To: Sabertooth; hchutch; Miss Marple; Howlin
As an old man, I don't remember Zogby's data/polls in the Dole election. I do know that we had massive voter fraud out here in Kali and a large part of it was the illegal alien votes in 1996 and the new citizens sworn in mass to vote.

I just remember Zogby being very squirrely in the last two weeks of the 2000 election. I was on a special email list, and some of the stuff coming from him in that last two weeks started to have the stink of a California/Field poll.

Then after the election, the Rats were citing and quoting him as being right on.

That meant that legitimate pollsters like the Battleground group were either dummies or something happened that none of the groups picked up in their last polls. I didn't buy that. To many reliable pollsters missed this so called last minute swing. It was not there.

Then you ask the $64 question, what did Goron do to get this hugh tidal wave of change? I saw nothing!

Then the reports from Philly, Floriduh, Wisconsin, St. Louis, LA, SF and other areas re massive voter fraud started to come in.

My old DNA alarm bell went off, and I felt that Zogby had provided cover for this massive attempt to steal our nation and to nullify our votes.

I still believe that Zogby was in on the coverup, and when this new Battlefield poll came out showing that 51% of those polled, said that they voted for GW in 2000. All of those bad memories came back up like a bad cheap meal.
75 posted on 06/25/2002 1:12:14 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Zogby also pegged the 1996 election, too.
78 posted on 06/25/2002 2:02:25 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: Grampa Dave
Then after the election, the Rats were citing and quoting him as being right on.

That meant that legitimate pollsters like the Battleground group were either dummies or something happened that none of the groups picked up in their last polls.

The Battleground poll did show late movement towards Gore. The problem (if it can be called that) is that Battleground didn't and doesn't poll on Fridays or Saturdays, so their four-day poll sample had Wed-Thur-Sun-Mon. Their last poll release, which included that last Sunday and Monday, showed a good amount of movement towards Gore, but it was watered down by the Wed-Thur numbers. This is a risk with rolling samples (exasperbated by taking two days off)- late movement can be masked.

On the other hand, Zogby didn't show late movement towards Gore. His poll showed the movement earlier. His last few polls were steady.

Exit polls showed that there was late movement though. So in a counter-intuitive way, Battleground actually picked up on something real that Zogby didn't.

My full comments about Zogby's 2000 performance are above by a comment or two.

109 posted on 06/26/2002 7:45:34 AM PDT by Dales
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