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Jerusalem delighted, Palestinians distraught:"We see speech as Hebrew words translated into English"
Jerusalem Post ^ | Jun. 25, 2002 | By HERB KEINON

Posted on 06/24/2002 8:30:40 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl

US President George W. Bush's address was greeted with satisfaction in Jerusalem last night, and a feeling that the country's diplomatic policy and intense lobbying efforts had borne fruit.

Less than 30 minutes after Bush completed his speech, the Prime Minister's Office issued a statement saying, "Israel is a country that desires peace. Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has said on numerous occasions that when there is a complete cessation of terror, violence, and incitement and when the Palestinian Authority enacts genuine reforms, including new leadership at the top, such that a different Authority is created, then it will be possible to discuss how to make progress on the political track."

Officials in the Prime Minister's Office said Bush accepted Israel's two primary demands: that there be a total cessation of terrorism, and that the PA undergo a total reformation, before any progress can be made. The officals pointed out that Bush did not call for an immediate withdrawal, a return to the 1967 borders, or a firm timetable.

Minister-without-Portfolio Dan Naveh said the speech represents "the end of the Arafat era and the victory of Israel's position."

Palestinian reaction was less enthusiastic, though the official response was cooly receptive.

PA Chairman Arafat said Bush had made "a serious contribution" to Middle East peace, and an official statement said "President Arafat and the Palestinian leadership have welcomed the ideas presented by President Bush. The president [Arafat] and the cabinet view the ideas as a serious contribution to pushing the peace process forward."

"The leadership hopes to discuss the necessary details to secure the success of these ideas through direct and bilateral meetings with the American administration, and with the consultation of the quartet [US, European Union, Russia, and United Nations representatives] and the Arab brothers."

But Mahmoud Zahar, a prominent Hamas leader in the Gaza Strip, described Bush's speech as and adaptation of Sharon's attitudes.

"We see the speech as Hebrew words that were translated into English and spoken by Bush on behalf of Sharon," Zahar said.

Palestinian Legislative Council member Husam Khader said the speech "is very bad. It did not offer anything new, and claims the Palestinian people bear the responsibility of what's going on."

Chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said only Palestinians can choose their leadership and they already have chosen Arafat.

"Palestinian leaders don't come from parachutes from Washington or anywhere else. Palestinian leaders are elected directly by the Palestinian people. President Yasser Arafat was directly elected in a free and fair election... The world and President Bush must respect the democratic choice of the Palestinian people," Erekat told CNN.

Shinui Party head Yosef "Tommy" Lapid called Bush's speech the most favorable to Israel ever delivered by an American president addressing the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. He said Bush clearly called for Palestinians to replace Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat, without even mentioning his name.

Lapid said Bush did not try to "balance" between Israel and the Palestinians, because what interests him is the war against terrorism, and that in this regard there is no doubt where the president stands.

Meretz leader MK Yossi Sarid said Bush's speech was not in tune with reality. "The goals that Bush set out are worthy and proper, but he apparently has no idea how to implement them."

National Union-Yisrael Beiteinu leader Avigdor Lieberman praised the speech, saying it was constructive in its recommendations to change the Palestinian leadership as a first step.

Former prime minister Ehud Barak said the Bush speech was "very good." In an interview with CNN, Barak said he hopes Arafat now understands that this may be his last chance, and will not try to oppose Bush's proposals.

American Jewish leaders breathed a sigh of relief that the president's vision of a Palestinian state is preconditioned on the eradication of terrorism and the building of democratic institutions.

"None of the anxieties that some of us had, listening and reading the analysis and pre-analysis, were realized," said Abraham Foxman, the national director of the Anti-Defamation League.

"I think it's a very powerful address, and puts the onus where we always said it was, which is the inability of the current [Palestinian] leadership," said Malcolm Hoenlein, the executive vice chairman of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations.

Hoenlein lauded Bush for calling on Syria to halt terrorism and urging the Palestinians to "choose life," a marked contrast to some Palestinian leaders' calls for "martyrdom," or suicide attacks against Israelis, he noted.

"The real key now is the implementation and sustaining it over time," he said.

American Jewish Committee president Harold Tanner and executive director David Harris issued a congratulatory statement to Bush on his "superb speech." It was "courageous, comprehensive, and visionary," they wrote.

Bush's continued support for Israel throughout its war on Palestinian terrorism was also praised.

"The president on this issue has been very good since day one," said Foxman. "And all those who are saying it's a passing moment of fancy, I think, are wrong. He was very clear where his moral compass is on this issue."


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To: The Documentary Lady
Strange. I got just the opposite impression from watching the Israeli officials being interviewed today. With the exception of the change of leadership issue, the Palestinians were surprisingly for it and the Israelis had their heels dug in, grudgingly voicing minimal support.

Wrong, as always. You need to learn how to actually apprehend the news. Hint: Palis hate the speech. This is your clue to hate the speech.

Israel is very happy. As am I.

41 posted on 06/25/2002 12:35:19 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: Phil V.
Right...that'll happen.
42 posted on 06/25/2002 1:58:21 AM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: Cinnamon Girl
It was a great speech, especially because the Palie spokesmouths I saw last night hated it (and a Saudi ambassador bailed out on Brit Hume). They don't understand that Bush isn't Clinton.


43 posted on 06/25/2002 3:35:33 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Phil V.
Announce that you WILL NOT RUN.

But that all other candidates will meet with regrettable and bizarre accidents :).

You really believe in your swinish and murdering little pal, don't you?

44 posted on 06/25/2002 4:28:33 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: The Documentary Lady
Strange. I got just the opposite impression from watching the Israeli officials being interviewed today

But remember that you tend to get strange impressions everywhere you go, Betty. Must be your Lebanon ties. You're a veritable repository of odd broadcasts and wire stories gone off in the ether never to be found again.

Tell you what, if you can get the stuff on your fillings, you might be of interest to the Fortean Society.

45 posted on 06/25/2002 4:36:09 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Yehuda
byebyebill" and "doc lady" can both be translated as "pretend to be pro-US but kill the Jews and Christians " in palie.

Well, I'll second that !

46 posted on 06/25/2002 4:38:41 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: bybybill
Bet the Saudi`s are going to be big players, finacing the Palestians so long as the bombing stops.

You are a blithering insane or an Arab mouthpiece. Funnily enough, that tends to be the same thing. Now kindly go buff your camel until it shines. I heard you got the rump portion all finished already.

47 posted on 06/25/2002 4:40:12 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: The Documentary Lady
I was surprised when I saw the opposite.

It doesn't surprise me because you always see the opposite of reality.

48 posted on 06/25/2002 4:42:52 AM PDT by Alouette
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To: goldstategop
A very learned Jewish man and one of my closest friends explained this strange kowtowing to the Clintons this way. "First" , he said, "most Jews have been taught a somewhat left of center position from their recent European background and it is hard to shed. Second, the American Jews identified so closely with the Black community in America because it was thought ,'What is good for them will necessarily spill over and be good for us', that it is very difficult to unwrap themselves from that political position because it has been entrenched into the Jewish institutions." This was Sidney's simple explanation and I think it has the ring of truth. Sidney and Freda voted for Bush. All their New York and Maryland cousins voted as often as possible for the Clintons and Clinton surrogates. This is posted FYI only and I mean no disrespect at all.
49 posted on 06/25/2002 4:48:25 AM PDT by chemainus
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To: Cachelot
You really believe in your swinish and murdering little pal

No, I don't.

For over a year I have been saying "kill" him. That has now been accomplished. It is now time for Mr. (ACME-to-the-max) Arafat to "die" . . .

The Israelis will miss "cartoon time".

50 posted on 06/25/2002 5:08:14 AM PDT by Phil V.
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To: bybybill
The problem will be the settlements.

The problem is Islam.
Most observers still fail to educate themselves and continue under the delusion that the culture and the religion is rational and that they think like we do

Islam does not recognize the concept of "State".
In Arabic, there is no word for "Arabia". Is that a clue?
Ergo, the "palestinian" state is simply a means to an alternate obvious end.

There is no such thing as a "non combatant" Arab Muslim.
"Moderate" Muslim is an oxymoron.

The Muslim view of the world is very simple: Dar al Harb and Dar al Islam. Why is that so difficult to grasp?

Asking "palestinians" to "change" their political structure is like asking them to change their religion: ain't gonna happen.

51 posted on 06/25/2002 5:35:14 AM PDT by Publius6961
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To: The Documentary Lady
Stop getting your information from the callers to CSPAN, er CSPIN
55 posted on 06/25/2002 6:11:58 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: SoCar
Have your dad ask these people what they think of LIEberman's idea to bring Palestinian youth to America so they can learn about democracy.

I am still in shock at the very thought of such insanity.

57 posted on 06/25/2002 6:14:18 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: SoCar
Have your dad ask these people what they think of LIEberman's idea to bring Palestinian youth to America so they can learn about democracy.

I am still in shock at the very thought of such insanity.

58 posted on 06/25/2002 6:15:11 AM PDT by OldFriend
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