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VAN DAM vs. Westerfield, 6-24-02: Televised proceedings a far cry from O.J. fiasco!
Union Tribune ^ | June 24, 2002 | Alex Roth

Posted on 06/24/2002 9:06:32 AM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: Jaded
Do you think they wore gloves?
721 posted on 06/24/2002 10:16:42 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Rheo
Would immunity be something that would be given to someone like - say - Rich - cuz he supplied drugs - illegal - but maybe unrelated to the case? Or would immunity be given to only someone who was involved in the abduction or killing or cover-up - or whatever? Do you know what I'm getting at - I'm not expressing my question well.
722 posted on 06/24/2002 10:16:47 PM PDT by mommya
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To: John Jamieson
And why weren't those zip discs printed?..why leave open the possibility of not being DW's?...why not print them and have stronger proof that they are his?
723 posted on 06/24/2002 10:17:59 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
They said they didn't dust for prints.
724 posted on 06/24/2002 10:19:28 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
If DW has hair in his palms and is blind in one eye, is he guilty?
725 posted on 06/24/2002 10:19:37 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: skipjackcity
See #568
726 posted on 06/24/2002 10:19:57 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Rheo
Thanks. Very interesting and food for thought.
727 posted on 06/24/2002 10:20:45 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Rheo
Maybe they're not interested in ANY possibility of finding exculpatory evidence? A real patten of that developing.
728 posted on 06/24/2002 10:21:24 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: mommya
Don't feel bad...I don't get it either.

I thought maybe immunity for lying to police during an investigation and then coming clean...or Rich and the pot..or worse.

729 posted on 06/24/2002 10:21:47 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: John Jamieson
Molestors and pedophile collect both hard core child porn, and pics of kids not considered porn, say sexy little cute outfits in catalogs etc...NOW they can collect cartoons. Hey, the supreme court didn't say the cartoons weren't child porn..they said they were legal to possess, right? Do you think people who don't fantasize about having sex with little kids collect pics of kids being raped?..
730 posted on 06/24/2002 10:22:14 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: John Jamieson
If DW has hair in his palms and is blind in one eye, is he guilty?

Only of not listening to good ole mom!

731 posted on 06/24/2002 10:22:43 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: Rheo
Sparklies WERE found on the floor (investigator noting that carpet hadn't been vacuumed..sparklies on floor, etc.)

Oh, and the blood on DW's jacket: Danielle was prone to nosebleeds...on GS Cookies day, while Danielle and brother running through the house, "small" nosebleed could have started and one flick of her head could have flicked a drop on the jacket. My mom and brother both suffer from them, sometimes they are one or two drops and others more voluminous.
732 posted on 06/24/2002 10:24:57 PM PDT by Dasaji
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To: John Jamieson
If DW has hair in his palms and is blind in one eye, is he guilty?

Beins that pedophiles do act out their fantasies...I'd say the idea of motive is more credible .

733 posted on 06/24/2002 10:26:29 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: John Jamieson; Rheo
From all the information that came out about the DA, don't you think that the WORD that came down to the INVESTIGATORS, the POLICE CHIEF, all the LEO's, the Prosecuting Attorney was something like this:

FIND SOMEONE, NOW, I DON'T CARE WHO, AND MAKE IT STICK !

734 posted on 06/24/2002 10:27:30 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
If that is true, why didn't rick roberts LE leak that out? Not in the know or what?
735 posted on 06/24/2002 10:28:50 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Even IF all 68,000 jpgs were of underaged little kids/girls, Dusek still hasn't proven motive. DW MAY HAVE done it because he has a thing for them, but there's no way to prove it. Danielle's body was too decomposed for any proof of sexual assault, and no one has found semen anywhere; they've asked. Dusek may claim that as motive, but as far as proving it, it's not materializing. If he can prove something somewhere in relation to Danielle before he rests his case, then that's another thing.

If all they can show is that he had kiddie porn, then so far, that'd be the only thing they could prove was he had kiddie porn.

736 posted on 06/24/2002 10:30:46 PM PDT by sbnsd
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Kim, there are convicted MOLESTERS and PEDOPHILES by the ton living all around the VD's neighborhood. God knows what they have in their possession. But they weren't investigated and arrested. Why? Because someone told the INVESTIGATORS to go after DW, and the LE was willing to EMBELLISH the statement(also called a LIE) to get a warrant.

Then what followed was a media circus being led by a DA wanting to get re-elected.

DW may or may not be guilty, but this circus hasn't been about him or Danielle for a long time.

737 posted on 06/24/2002 10:31:59 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
You know Kim, I don't like porn, but I have seen some over the years, I know what it is and I know 10s of millions of people in this country have it and or use it for various purposes. I have no doubt that vertually every "swinger" has it in the their house.

It's a said fact, that the instant camera, 8 mm film camera's, home VCRs and portable VCR cameras and home computers all owe a major part of their existance to this "industry" and "hobby".

I'll bet at least half the single men in this country (and half the married ones too!) have porno of some sort in their homes. It is not proof of murder or even motive for murder.
738 posted on 06/24/2002 10:33:14 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
If that is true, why didn't rick roberts LE leak that out?

Because he didn't want to end up wearing cement overshoes.

739 posted on 06/24/2002 10:34:10 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Dasaji
I agree with you....the small amount of blood on his jacket and the 1/4 inch drop on the carpet..could be there from some other time...nosebleed..cut while playing, etc.

Not disputing sparklies on the floor....just questioning why the VD's said she was in the cascading flower pj's....Powder Puff girl pj's were on the floor in her room...no mention of the sparkly outfit missing or laying on the floor.

740 posted on 06/24/2002 10:36:48 PM PDT by Rheo
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