VAN DAM vs. Westerfield, 6-24-02: Televised proceedings a far cry from O.J. fiasco!

Union Tribune ^ | June 24, 2002 | Alex Roth

[dread78645]

No way you can get an aquital with the fingerprints and DNA.

Where is DWs fingerprints ?
Where is DWs DNA ?

[Karson]

Are you saying that MizSterious has been banned again? Or did I misunderstand the meaning of your post? It's late, I'm tired and easily confused these days.

[John Jamieson]

Didn't the Supremes just decide a few weeks ago, that simulated, or animated, or cartoon kiddy porn wasn't illegal. (BTW, I don't agree, but I think that's the current law). We may never hear another word about kiddy porn during this trial.

[UCANSEE2]

If he can fly why go to the RV in the first place?

He has a hidden compartment in the RV that contains a casket that he sleeps in during the day. That is why he kept the MH curtains closed during the day while at the beach. SUNLIGHT BAD. (/sarcasm)

[Rheo]

LOL!

[John Jamieson]

In his home.
In his home.

[UCANSEE2]

the prosecution team are a bunch of idiots aren't they?

Not necessarily idiots, just people that have a lot (like power) to gain by pressing this case.

[Karson]

It getting late enough here, I need to either go to bed or start breakfast. I think I'll go to bed and hopefully get UNconfused on some of the evidence? tomorrow. Goodnight all.

[John Jamieson]

Sorry, that's wrong.
In his lawyer's new home.
In his lawyer's new home.

[Rheo]

Goodnight Karson!...or I'll have bacon and eggs over easy please.

[UCANSEE2]

What the heck does "bared" mean, in this context.

Why are you rubbing this in JR and AM's face?

[Freedom2specul8]

Yes , the SC, yours and mine ruled that it's legal to have cartoon kiddie porn.

I guess we'll have to wait and see what kind of porn will be testified to in court.

[juzcuz]

Something weird about pizza story as well. (Day 2-June 5)Damon's testimony- about the pizza "they" all sat and ate that Friday evening.
Feldman,Q: "Do you know if this was new pizza or pizza from you guys?"
Damon,A: "Pizza from Noon."
Well I thought Brenda ordered that "LARGE" Pizza at 5:00pm. and picked it up at 5:30pm.

Something weird about Damon knowing the two neighborhood guy's for a year and Damon testifies that they are cousins. (Keith and Rich)

Feldman,Q: "Who is keith?" Damon,A:"Keith is his cousin."
According to Keith and Rich. They are ex-brother-in-laws...

Also,Damon testifies that after they found Danielle missing he became or didn't know what he was doing and when he did it. Well according to his statements he wasn't in his full faculties the night before as well. If I were to find my doors open in the middle of the night. I would have had to check on my kids to find out if they were up and opening the doors. The fact that he didn't tells me that he was far from being the main protector of his family. Has anyone thought that maybe "they all" were doing some kind of psycho-delicate drugs that night. Maybe none of the pizza eaters can remember what happened after 2:30am....

[dread78645]

Tsk Tsk....sweat=guilt

sweat=probable cause
unolled hose=guilt

[UCANSEE2]

. If the entire SD LE is a bunch of corrupt jerks, who purposely targets innocent civilians for whatever reason..to get the glory of solving a crime in the end..God help us all.

I would venture to say that most of the SD LE and many LE's all over the country are very fine, caring, law upholders.

That there may be some crooked cops, and a DA that targets innocents (or just easiest targets) to gain something is very likely true.

[RnMomof7]

Someone on one of the FR threads a couple weeks ago mentioned he found it on the web..I went and foung it too. Type in the Damons name and surfing..it should come up..

[mommya]

Just a bit from a link I posted a while back - don't know if anyone checked it out or not - but it's fairly short and intersting. It's about interviewing techniques...
http://hometown.aol.com/liesee ker/trad.htm


15. Joe, how do you think you'd do on that lie detector test?

(Innocent people do not hesitate to say they would pass such a test. Guilty suspects express doubts about passing.)

16. Joe, is there any reason that are investigation would show that _____ (your fingerprints, footprints, skin, et.) was found at the scene of the crime?

(Innocent people will make a firm, immediate denial.)

This last question is referred to as the "Bait Question." It's designed to make the suspect believe there is evidence against him, and to weaken his resolve. You will most often see a deceptive or guilty suspect exhibit his greatest amount of stress when answering this question. The evidence can be real, or something thought up by the interviewer.

You should now score the questionnaire. If more than a third of the responses are indicative of a deceptive or guilty suspect, you should continue the interview. The best way to do this is to leave the room for a period of approximately five minutes. Obtain a file folder and place the suspect's name upon it's outside, and place old reports or other documents inside the folder. You should then re-enter the interview room and confront the suspect and state:

"Joe, our investigation clearly shows that you did do this thing. I'd like to sit down and talk to you about this. Can we talk?"

When making this statement, you should stand with your legs apart in a dominate stance, hold your hands about waist high and about body width apart. This is called the Confrontation Statement. When making it, you will want to appear as confident as possible, leaving no doubt in the suspect's mind that you have no doubts as to his guilt.

After the suspect agrees to speak with you, you must now use an interview technique designed to gain a confession. If the suspect is not free to go, then now is the time to introduce Miranda warnings.

[UCANSEE2]

Barb and Bill Libby are the two immunities

You mean two who have asked for or gotten immunity from prosecution?

[skipjackcity]

" But on the bright side he can frantically clean his cell all he wants.".....You know you usually come off as having a chip on your shoulder, but that is genuinely funny.

[Freedom2specul8]

Here's the opening statement.

. finally, we'll get into why this happened and one last count that we have, possession of the child pornography. not only did the officers search and find what we've talked about so far, but there were other people involved in that search, people who are familiar with computers, how they work, how you can get inside them, what they can tell you. these people were also part of the search team from the san diego homicide department. and these people went also pursuant to this search warrant to the defendant's house. they went to the defendant's upstairs area. they went to the defendant's office where he has his initials on the wall and his computers on the table and his work manuals on the bookshelves.

and they found an envelope stuck up in this bookshelf that had computer things, floppy disks, they'll talk the computer talk to you. and they pulled those out, and they looked at what was on there. and when they did, they found the evidence that supports the child pornography count.

they also found the evidence that indicates why he took her. he had pictures that he had downloaded, taken off the internet and organized, systemized, and labeled.

not only of naked young girls, many of them nude, standing in sexual poses, obviously under eighteen, he had young girls actively involved in a sex act that he had preserved. he had animations, drawings, if you will, of little girls in pigtails, dressed like little girls, being attacked by males, orally, digitally, anally, and vaginally. he also had videos that he had downloaded and preserved, some of which you will see, four or five. some of them have sound. and you will hear what is going on. and you will see what is going on on those videos. and what you will see is basically adult males sexually assaulting a young female. certainly dressed to look like a young female.