You are not suggesting that the outcome of the Vietnam War, our brief assault on Libya, and Desert storm ended as definitively as WWII are you? It seems to me that we beat it out of Nam, failed to take out Qadhafi, and momentarily contained Iraq. Band aid solutions that left intact everything we were trying to remove.
I appreciate you sharing your ideas with me but have some questions:
"Neutralize the effectiveness of extant Islamist groups through the precise application of force, both lethal and nonlethal."
Wouldn't we need to maintain a constant military or intelligence presence in every country in the world to do this?
"Prevent the formation of additional effective terrorist organizations (I really do not care if they form ineffective organizations; we can deal with those very easily). "
Wouldn't we need to maintain a constant military or intelligence presence in every country in the world to this?
"Convince the larger Islamic world that jihadism is a really stupid way of relating to the West. Do not convince the Islamic world that West is trying to exterminate them.
What have we done to convince them of this in the first place? Muslims have been moving here in droves for quite some time. And can you convince me that the Islamic world is not trying to exterminate me?
By the way and all kidding aside, it's not nice to call someone a liberal. Even I have my limits.
I said that they achieved the results desired for them.
It seems to me that we beat it out of Nam,
When we left, the RVN was a free nation. Had Nixon not gotten himself involved in covering up a third-rate burglary, it probably would have stayed as such.
failed to take out Qadhafi,
And we haven't heard squat out of him, have we?
and momentarily contained Iraq.
We removed them from Kuwait. That was the goal.
Band aid solutions that left intact everything we were trying to remove.
Once again, you demonstrate that you don't know your history. Good thing you weren't in Sister Josephine's history class--she probably would have broken a few dozen rulers on your knuckles.
We were not trying to score WW2-style victories.
I appreciate you sharing your ideas with me but have some questions:
"Neutralize the effectiveness of extant Islamist groups through the precise application of force, both lethal and nonlethal."
Wouldn't we need to maintain a constant military or intelligence presence in every country in the world to do this?
We should have a constant intelligence presence in every country of the world. Those nations that don't generally do not survive as nations very long.
"Prevent the formation of additional effective terrorist organizations (I really do not care if they form ineffective organizations; we can deal with those very easily)."
Wouldn't we need to maintain a constant military or intelligence presence in every country in the world to this?
Again, we should be maintaining an intelligence presence everywhere. That's how a nation lives, survives, and thrives.
"Convince the larger Islamic world that jihadism is a really stupid way of relating to the West. Do not convince the Islamic world that West is trying to exterminate them.
What have we done to convince them of this in the first place?
Operation Enduring Freedom.
Muslims have been moving here in droves for quite some time.
And 90+% left their native lands because their flavor of Islamic theology didn't quite match what the mullah wanted. It's called "freedom." People seem to want it for some odd reason.
And can you convince me that the Islamic world is not trying to exterminate me?
Your psychological problems are your business, not mine.
By the way and all kidding aside, it's not nice to call someone a liberal. Even I have my limits.
Argue like a liberal, get called a liberal. C'est l'vie.