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To: Edward Watson
Horowitz is apparently more moderate than you are. Unlike you, he doesn't condemn every Muslim man, woman and child as evil but only singles out radical Islam.
37 posted on 06/24/2002 10:24:23 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Horowitz is apparently more moderate than you are. Unlike you, he doesn't condemn every Muslim man, woman and child as evil but only singles out radical Islam.

Huh? I don't believe all Muslims are evil. I'm merely pointing out the fact we are facing a religious conflict, one that can't be solved by accomodation.

Look, whether you like it or not, the West is becoming Islamicized. Muslims have vastly more children than Christians or Jews, and are immigrating to the West by the millions every year.

This means the demographic characteristic of the West is changing year by year, from a liberal and secular Judeo-Christian milieu to a conservative, intolerant Islamic one.

Consequently, it is only a matter of TIME, and for sure within the 21st century, when the majority of the population of the West will become Islamic.

What's going to happen then? All the advances that made the West the pinnacle of human society in relation to freedom, tolerance, woman's rights and technological advancement will be erased. Don't you think it's odd not one out of the top 500 global brands originate from Islamic countries? Don't you think its odd no Islamic nation is at the forefront of any scientific endevour? Is there an Islamic spacefaring nation or one with advanced industrial, computer, aviation or medical capacity? No, and there can't be any because of the rigidity of Islam, that prevents innovation and independent thinking.

Why in the world would we be stupid enough to throw all the societal advantages of the West away just for the IDEAL of religious and cultural equality? Are you so willing to condemn your children, grandchildren and especially great-grandchildren to the rule of Islam? Don't you want your descendants to live in freedom, peace and prosperity, or do you prefer they live in an Islamic society as found in the Middle East? Because as surely as the grass is green, that's going to be the future of the West unless we muster up the courage and halt all future Muslim immigration and make religious or nonreligious conversion the condition for acceptance of Muslims.

Muslims immigrate to the West because they know they can enjoy freedom and prosperity in a manner that doesn't exist back home. However, the vast majority of these Muslim immigrants aren't assimilating and are bringing with them the intolerant teachings of Islam and the cultural baggage they grew up with.

Why do you think anti-Semitism is exploding across the West? The violence isn't coming from the non-Muslims. The greater the number of Muslims, the greater the pressure for them to vote as a bloc to change the culture of their adoped country in the West. This is why Sharia laws are beginning to be allowed in many European countries. Suddenly, women no longer have equal rights with the Muslim man and can be divorced by a simple sentence repeated three times. Suddenly, one can't walk the streets of certain neighborhoods in London, Amsterdam and dozens of other European cities if one isn't wearing clothing identifying them as Muslim. Suddenly, attempts are being made to introduce legislation prohibiting any criticism of Islam while allowing Islamic criticism of others.

The world is changing, old ideals are being discarded. Until people like you realize there's nothing wrong with making religous (or nonreligious) conversion of Muslims conditional for immigration and citizenship; the West is doomed to obliteration.

Oh, and finally, condemning people like myself for merely pointing out the obvious isn't going to make the problem go away.

52 posted on 06/24/2002 11:06:41 AM PDT by Edward Watson
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