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Citizen Padilla: Dangerous precedents.
National Review Online ^ | June 24, 2002 | Robert A. Levy

Posted on 06/24/2002 7:16:31 AM PDT by xsysmgr

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To: DemoSmear
P.S. isn't this supposed to be, as the song goes, the land of the free and the home of the brave? When we put even personal protection as our chief goal, to the point that merely accusing a person puts him perpetually beyond exoneration except at the whim of the executive, we are no longer the home of the brave. We are the home of the frightened and timid.
81 posted on 06/25/2002 4:15:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
How exactly is it a COURT MARSHALL, silly in a civilian case- for one that isn't in our armed services? Remember, it is the cilivilian right to due process that the ACLU wants.

So, I take it you're saying a military tribunal is okay with you, so long as he gets his day in court.

That may indeed be the best way to go- after the war is over.

No, Bubba. Forget it- you'll never convince me that our government is out to get me. Take care. Time for a beer.

82 posted on 06/25/2002 4:26:35 PM PDT by DemoSmear
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To: DemoSmear
after the war is over

What, pray tell, marks this point in the present case? And who shall decide it, the executive?

83 posted on 06/25/2002 4:31:21 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: DemoSmear
If you want to remain blind to a fundamental corruption of our system of justice by the excuse of a never ending war, go ahead. It is counter to all things American to just "make a person disappear."
84 posted on 06/25/2002 4:33:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: DemoSmear
Forget it- you'll never convince me that our government is out to get me

Straw man argument. What you need to become aware of is that a blind lion has been let loose. It may not be specifically "out to get you" but if you come across its path beware!

85 posted on 06/25/2002 4:35:52 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Now, I said I'm going for a beer. Now, do you want to argue with my friend instead? ;)
86 posted on 06/25/2002 4:50:12 PM PDT by DemoSmear
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To: DemoSmear
Like I said , you are a moron.

Now comes the attack on something off topic. Stick to whether any citizen has rights, or just the ones the government says have rights. I say you are a terrorist. You better hope I don't find out who you are, or you will have no rights either. Imbecile.

87 posted on 06/25/2002 7:53:25 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
TomJeff,

You really dishonor the name of a great man.

Your ad hominem attacks on this and other threads today say all that any Freeper needs know about you. If you'd like to know EXACTLY who I am, where I live and what time I'll meet you, just Freepmail me. That's how scared I am. Bye sweetheart. LIBERAL tarian.

88 posted on 06/25/2002 9:07:46 PM PDT by DemoSmear
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To: DemoSmear
Please leave your real name, address and other info in my email. I'll see to it that you are called upon by your beloved government friends.

I'll frame you of course, but it's no problem because you will not have any rights. You will be arrested, taken into custody without any charges, not allowed any phone calls or an attorney, and you will be held indefinately. All on the say so of the government thugs who's boots you lick.

I'll be waiting for the info, thanks.

89 posted on 06/26/2002 7:27:02 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
Jump out a window, stock broker. LOL, you just showed anyone reading this just how principled and how much integrity a Liberaltarian really has. Thanks for being a pawn in the game. Just as I thought.

ps- did you finish with the other 3 flame wars you had yeaterday? SCUM, simply scum.

90 posted on 06/26/2002 9:07:40 AM PDT by DemoSmear
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To: DemoSmear
I thought you were going to leave all your EXACT info. What happened? Chicken out?
91 posted on 06/26/2002 9:17:16 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
If I thought you had a fraction of guts to come out here from behind your mouse clicker and keyboard, and face me- I'd gladly give a place and time to meet. But alas, you have less importance than a 1% little Liberaltarian and even less integrity. I live in Colorado Springs. Freepmail me when you arrive. I'll gladly kick your ass. Coward.

All you're capable of is little flame wars on FR. What's wrong stock broker, are all your customers bailing on ya? Need to vent somewhere else? Hmmmmmm? Get lost jerk.

Consider yourself ignored. Threaten me again like you did above and you'll be reported to FR.

92 posted on 06/26/2002 9:54:41 AM PDT by DemoSmear
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To: DemoSmear
How exactly is it a COURT MARSHALL, silly in a civilian case- for one that isn't in our armed services? Remember, it is the cilivilian right to due process that the ACLU wants.

Well, somebody has got to hear this case, whether it be a military or civilian court. Otherwise the Constitutional guarantee of a speedy trial is a mockery. The SCOTUS could well decide to hear it directly, if nobody else steps up to the plate.

Note: there has been no war declared. So the basic premise of Quirin has not been met.

93 posted on 06/26/2002 12:15:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: DemoSmear
http://www.murlin.com/~webfx/cops/ptaz.gif

I expected Yosemite Sam.

94 posted on 06/26/2002 12:17:02 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: DemoSmear
Consider yourself ignored. Threaten me again like you did above and you'll be reported to FR.

The fact you feel so threatened by a little rhetoric is telling.

95 posted on 06/26/2002 12:18:38 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: DemoSmear
So the basic premise of Quirin has not been met

Oh, and the actual Quirin ruling was to deliver the suspects to a military court... that was the sole impact of the ruling. All else was obiter dicta. The military court at least permitted the possibility of a defense, however remote its likelihood of success.

Now isn't this beautiful... we are claiming Quirin to prevent Padilla from being called up by a civilian court, yet we have no declaration of war so there is no military tribunal to hear it. I don't know what SCOTUS will do with this grand cop-out of judicial responsibility, but we can't let it stand. It will be the thin edge of a wedge of government tyranny. Perpetual war with Eastasia anyone???

96 posted on 06/26/2002 12:28:40 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Okay Bubba. You know all and see all. In fact, the @sshole did much more than type rhetoric, he threatened me. Now, yesterday, you felt threatened by an imaginary Big Brother.

Which is worse, hallucinations of threats are typed threats by a coward?

Consider yourself unimportant. Now, make sure you give another 6 responses to this too. See ya schizo.

97 posted on 06/26/2002 3:19:01 PM PDT by DemoSmear
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To: DemoSmear
Booooooooooooooooo hooooooooooooooooooooo!
98 posted on 06/26/2002 4:26:40 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: DemoSmear
OK, this is reply #2. I have yet to see this "threat" nuked. You are hallucinating. (Now let's see what I can do for #3)
99 posted on 06/26/2002 4:27:54 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
So the basic premise of Quirin has not been met...

Excuse me, I had to laugh at this since you said I was hallucinating, yet you quoted me on something I never said. Oh, now that is comedy! Sorry I didn't answer sooner. But, it was great fun to see nevertheless. You are a stich!

100 posted on 07/06/2002 8:52:17 PM PDT by DemoSmear
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