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Well obviously, if someone is trying pass off a grenade launcher as a recreational gun, I'd be a bit concerned. So that's why I'm wondering what kind of gun (and I'm not saying Jefferson has done this. I simply want to know what kind of gun.)

When exactly were the conceal/carry laws changed for airplanes? As far as unreasonable, that depends. Again, if you have nothing to hide, why is it a violation of your freedom to promote safety? If 9-11 hadn't happened, and an airport worker asked to search your bag, would you let them? How would you propose, in light of 9-11, that security be done at airports?

I guess I'm of the mind that *IF* I felt I had lost a freedom, I'd do my damn hardest to get those freedoms back. I guess working in corporate life has made me a 'if you present a problem, present a solution' kinda gal.

Again, if you have nothing to hide, why is it a violation of your freedom to promote safety?

(beating my head against the wall)

This is why:

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

I guess I'm of the mind that *IF* I felt I had lost a freedom, I'd do my damn hardest to get those freedoms back.

Well yeah, but the trouble is, by the time you felt you had lost a freedom, it would probably be long past the time to do something about it.

Just because I don't live in NY or CA, doesn't mean I haven't lost freedom due to their unconstitutional laws. If even a few states in America don't honor the Constitution, we have all lost freedom.

"Again, if you have nothing to hide, why is it a violation of your freedom..."

If you have nothing to hide then I presume you would not object to your neighbor peering through your windows or having the sheriff rummaging around in your hard drive or paper files without a warrant or probable cause.

Given the fact that everyone is a potential criminal, think where the path of prevention leads.

Regards

J.R.

Admittedly, I am not that familiar with the 5th amendment.

This is why you people make me want to effen scream for God's sake.

You're truly a nice and sweet person, I mean that. But it's because people like you that we've drifted so far from the freedoms that were promised us in the founding documents.

I just got done this month working every single day of 2002 just to pay off government, now the rest of the year is mine. Every day I woke to an alarm, every day I sweated, every aggravation, every problem at work, every one of my customers I went out and sold so far this year ..........were all for THE GOVERNMENT. I'm not being far-out either. All of it, until June was soley to pay off the government. This is infuriating and a bastardization of our right to liberty and the pursuit of happines.

Then you ask "what freedoms have we lost". I could make you a list rintense that would make your head spin, but why should I waste my time when you ask such questions?

You're probably under the impression that I don't like you but that's very far from the truth. What I don't like is when reasonably smart people don't "get it" when it comes to what it means to be a constitutional FREE REPUBLIC. To "get it" and argue about how to accomplish it is one thing, to not get it at all is another.

The Bill of Rights is a very plain spoken easy to read document. If you go and read it and familiarize yourself with the first 10 amendments I promise to never again come into one of those absurd pic threads and say anything mean about GWB. You have my word on that.