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Excuse me?

You posted this tommyrot below?

Sure, chris. the GOP is the only way to promote conservatism. We have to elect Liddy Dole and other liberal republicans so that the conservatives will control the Senate. That'll be a neat trick, since Dole will be taking the place of the last functioning conservative left in that august old boy's club. Sure, electing liberal conservatives is our only hope of advancing conservatism. How could I have been so stupid as not to see this irrefutable fact?

Well, besides the fact that you're ignorant of the way American politics works in the real world, I really don't know how you could have been so stupid as to see that irrefutable fact.

So where's President Alan Keyes? Or President Howard Phillips? Or President-for-Life Ross Perot? Oh, they didn't get elected? Oh, the people didn't vote for them?

You remember the vote, don't you, Twodees. It's called, "building a majority" or "building a coalition"? Something you're not interested in because you want it all and you want it all now.

Do you actually believe that all Republicans who don't pass your Kool-Aid test are liberals? Eh?

I guess you do. Which means that yes, you are stupid.

Maybe you can show me where the Constitution lays out this plan for government that you're touting here. Your comment about millenialist religion shows that you're living in a cartoon, kid. Until you can talk straight, don't try to talk to me at all.

Have you, like, ever looked at the Constitution?

It says nothing, nothing about political parties or "faction". It does lay out a structure for the apparatus of government and the division of power among the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of government. It also divides power between the central government and the several states. The key point is the restriction of legislative power, in which every jot and tittle of a law must be in agreement for a bill to go to the President.

It's not "my" plan for governance. It's in the Constitution. You want instant governance? It's not in the Constitution. In fact, the Constitution is specifically designed to keep people like you, who want it their way and no other way, in their place.

The political parties, or "faction" aren't there, either. They arose, organically, as people organized themselves during the Federal Period.

Now, when you can reason rationally, and present a coherent train of thought, try coming back with a rational post. Until then, you get horsewhipped, and you stay horsewhipped.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

[Twodees]

Yes, I posted what you snipped. Did you think someone else was using my screen name? How am I ignorant when I point out that Dole is a liberal? She really is, kid. You haven't shown anything to contradict what I said. How do we elect more conservatives when the GOP will only run liberals?

I know exactly how politics works in this country. If you really did, you would be as disgusted as I am unless you're in on the scam.

For the sake of argument. Let's pretend you really believe this nonsense you're pushing here. We just had two terms of Clinton and somehow it's the fault of conservatives who wouldn't vote for Wobbly and Dole. How is it that the RNC isn't at fault for running them? The GOP analysts decided after Reagan won two landlsides back to back( running as a conservative), that conservatives didn't have a chance to be elected. That's bad enough, but they saw Bush defeated, saw the electoral success of the '94 election where conservative candidates ran on conservative issues and won, and they put a big government liberal, Bob Dole up against Clinton. To make it even worse, they ran a "moderate" in 2000 and barely won with him while getting more of their seats trimmed from Congress. One of their Senators was beaten by a corpse with blatant electoral fraud and they didn't even challenge it.

Sorry, kid, but it sounds to me as though your bigshot GOP experts are the ones who don't know anything about American politics. They're the ones losing elections and having their own members jump ship and side with the democrats. Let's give them the benefit of the doubt and say they're stupid. The alternative is to conclude that they're betraying the cause they're pretending to support: conservatism.

When do you think you might get around to horsewhipping me? Blathering on with personal insults and presenting nothing in the way of fact doesn't get it done, boy. Come on and get after it. I don't have all day to fool with you.