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To: Twodees; Luis Gonzalez
Oh, yeah. Those of us who know how politics work and are tired of letting it go on are the stupid ones. You can't polish a turd, Luis. Party politics is a big unflushed turd, stinking up the whole house and the faithful of both parties are trying to polish it instead of flushing it.

This is yet another example of a conservative who confuses politics with millenialist religion.

Politics is about compromise to achieve many, if not most, of your aims. It is like making a sausage. It is not pleasant. You simply cannot deal with the fact that the Framers understood this and deliberately put together a construct which would make it difficult for any one group of people to seize power.

You want to remove parties and competing interest groups from politics? You might as well remove the money from politics, for all the good it will do you. The Twentieth Century is filled with Millenialist political movements that promised the "broad, sunlit uplands" and delivered only poverty, tyranny, and mass murder.

In so many words, you are demanding that we cast aside politics in favor of adherence to the Constitution. I say, who are you to tell me what "Constitutionalism" is?

Many of us don't have the tolerance for rot and corruption necessary to keep allowing the RNC to thwart the conservatibve movement. Those of you who do aren't going to convince anyone that you're holding the keys to success when all you offer is a plan to be increasingly loyal to a gang of increasing treacherous politicians.

Oh effing please.

The Republican Party is the only practical vehicle for conservative politics in this country, and both of us know it. That means that conservatives have two choices, work within the party to win over the RINO's (who are malleable and want to be liked) and other groups within the Party, thus maintaining some control over the direction of the Party, or, as I see all too often on FR, to pick up their marbles, declare a pox on all the houses, and walk away and sulk.

Don't even start with me about the Libertarians, or the Constitution Party, the remnants of the Reform Party, the Brigadiers, or the Coeour d' Leine, Idaho branch of the True Conservative Church of the White Race Totenkopfverbande. They are nothing. They are nowhere. They are a distraction to the real ball game. All you are doing is wasting your time, and ours.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

322 posted on 06/24/2002 7:44:03 AM PDT by section9
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To: section9
Sure, chris. the GOP is the only way to promote conservatism. We have to elect Liddy Dole and other liberal republicans so that the conservatives will control the Senate. That'll be a neat trick, since Dole will be taking the place of the last functioning conservative left in that august old boy's club. Sure, electing liberal conservatives is our only hope of advancing conservatism. How could I have been so stupid as not to see this irrefutable fact?

Maybe you can show me where the Constitution lays out this plan for government that you're touting here. Your comment about millenialist religion shows that you're living in a cartoon, kid. Until you can talk straight, don't try to talk to me at all.
325 posted on 06/24/2002 7:57:44 AM PDT by Twodees
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