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Border governors flex influence, muscle
Arizona Republic ^
| June 23, 2002
| HernĂ¡n Rozemberg
Posted on 06/23/2002 9:46:13 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: VinnyTex
Well, Maine + Canadian Border = French and English
Arizona + Mexican Border = Spanish and English
Where did Hull refer to Canada?
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posted on
06/23/2002 1:18:06 PM PDT
by
madfly
To: *immigrant_list
To: Tancredo Fan
More of the same old bullcrap about Mexico our friends. I am sick of it. I want as little to with that leeching nation as possible. This is a nightmare. US sovereignty meens zip to these sell outs and money grubbers.
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posted on
06/23/2002 1:21:10 PM PDT
by
dennisw
To: madfly
She didn't. I'm just using your example. Just like Hull, I hope one day Mexico will become a first world economic power. Then their citizens won't be trying to come here.
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posted on
06/23/2002 1:21:12 PM PDT
by
VinnyTex
To: Tancredo Fan
Hull has been a disaster for the State of Arizona. She epitimizes the word RINO.
To: VinnyTex
Oh. Well that's different.
Nevermind.
I agree with that also. I would like to see Mexico clean up its act and take care of its own. Most of us who have lived our lives in the southwest, have lifelong experiences with Mexicans and have traveled to Mexico. Beautiful country with many resources, and many problem.
I just don't want the criminal element (of Mexico and all points south) taking advantage of all these "free passes", while other countries are doing it by the book.
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posted on
06/23/2002 1:49:51 PM PDT
by
madfly
To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Borders have a way of creating a nation. Without borders, nations disappear. I do not recall the citizens of the United States voting to dissolve their nation. Well Said. When the statements of many of our elected officials in both parties are examined regarding their views about America's borders and immigration laws it is quite clear that we are dealing with political class that quite simply does not believe in the sovereignty of America. Since in office Jorge Bush has made a number of statements that have a similar ring to what Jane Hull said recently.
Yes, I don't remember the electorate ever voting for a no-borders, anything goes immigration agenda. It's about time we get some clarification from Jorge and the GOP as to if they believe our borders and immigration laws have any validity at all in their thinking. The electorate needs answers right now. If they dont want to talk about it then I guess we have our answer.
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posted on
06/23/2002 3:13:51 PM PDT
by
WRhine
To: Brownie74; WRhine
"Borders have a way of blocking our vision," she said. Globalist agitprop, created by big business, foisted as charitable feeling, propagated by guilt liberals, self-hating whiteys, the usual litany.
A symptom of the Republicrat stripmining of the American people and wealth to serve the short term interests of a few.
A unique converging of capital and guilt, capital that profits by suppressing American working peoples' wages, with the complicity of America hating lefties and union "leaders" like in the AFL-CIO thoroughly infiltrated with ideologues more interested in feeling good about themselves than their union members.
The Republican voice, or any voice, that points this out wins. But the money, and its censoring hammer of the charge of "racism" rules. Hull's bad. Kolbe's worse. He said he is going to wait until after election to stab America in the back. The mass media is silent, or in on it. Ironically, those most effected will be hispanic and black citizens.
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posted on
06/23/2002 3:33:56 PM PDT
by
Shermy
To: madfly
What a scary list.
My nominee for the next stripmining of the American working family are those in the trucking industry. thought you could raise a family? Too bad. Some execs want a bigger bonus.
Brought to you by the "Truckload Carriers Association."
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posted on
06/23/2002 3:36:23 PM PDT
by
Shermy
To: Brownie74
My question is---why are people pushing for "the creation of a guest worker program that would provide legal jobs and curb risky border crossings" when we have millions of them here already standing around on OUR street corners looking for work? I think the plan is to amnesty all the illegals already here. Later of course, after the guest worker program becomes the latest immigration disaster, our politicos will amnesty the new guest workers too. I'd like to know of one immigration law, amnesty, program that has not been debased by politicians into a total failure. Our government has ZERO credibility with anything to do with immigration.
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posted on
06/23/2002 4:06:00 PM PDT
by
WRhine
To: Geezerette
Not only is she a loony-tune on this issue, she wiped out our state surplus left to her by a conservative Governor, with her crazy schemes. Is the republican candidate replacing her any better than Hull or did the AZ GOP replace one open borders RINO with another?
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posted on
06/23/2002 4:14:06 PM PDT
by
WRhine
To: WRhine
Our government has ZERO credibility with anything to do with immigration. I'll agree with that. Tancredo is the only light on the horizon.
Government has ZERO credibility with just about anything they do. It isn't just immigration.
To: Tancredo Fan
Just one of many more like her to come.
To: Brownie74
Government has ZERO credibility with just about anything they do. It isn't just immigration. Yes, that reads much better.
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posted on
06/23/2002 4:51:19 PM PDT
by
WRhine
To: Brownie74
Government has ZERO credibility with just about anything they do. It isn't just immigration.That's an understatement. I don't recall an administration that's done so much waffling, flip-flopping, and flat out ignoring major problems in my life.
To: Tancredo Fan
Gov. Jane Hull reiterated the need for guest workers but also went further, notingshe'd like to see the formal border disappear within two decades. If I recall correctly, we had a civil war to maintain our ONE NATION borders, sovereignty of ONE NATION and to deny the right of SECESSION. Now this b*tch wants to go ahead and give Mexico what we as a nation refused to give the South.
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posted on
06/23/2002 5:13:58 PM PDT
by
varon
To: WRhine
There are three Republican candidates up for the Primary in September ... Matt Salmon, a conservative who term-limited himself out of the US House of Representatives, because that's what he promised to do in 1994 during the Republican "revolution".
Carol Springer, State Treasurer, who has very sound fiscal principles, but who probably doesn't have a chance because most people aren't aware of the good she did by trying to keep the spending down, etc.
The third one, Betsy Bayless, is a ditz, who keeps whining about education.
I forgot to say, not only did Hull wipe out the surplus, she threw the state into billions of debt because of her alt. fuel scheme, among others!
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To: Geezerette
There are three Republican candidates up for the Primary in September ... Matt Salmon, a conservative who term-limited himself out of the US House of Representatives, because that's what he promised to do in 1994 during the Republican "revolution". Thanks much Geezerette for your insights on this. It sounds like Matt Salmon is by far the best prospect for governorship of AZ. Any politican that makes good on a term-limits pledge is a rare bird these days.
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posted on
06/23/2002 9:04:59 PM PDT
by
WRhine
To: Tancredo Fan
BTW, Mexico is a hostile nation. Read this poll.Bump
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posted on
06/23/2002 10:41:12 PM PDT
by
PRND21
To: Brownie74
The reason why immigration is always a touchy subject for politicians is two fold. First off their scared to death of alienating any potential future voters and second is that immigration is America's sacred cow. Our entire history is steeped in immigration, it has always been described as our lifes blood and if we stopped or regulated it to much it would be un-American. To many people have been weaned on that "give me your tired, huddled masses" crap. The unfortunate thing about it all depending on one's perspective is that America has never, ever been a welcoming country to outsiders. Every new wave of immigrants in the past has had to come here and take their lumps. A kind of rite of passage in a sense. Social pressures in the past have kept the masses assimilating. Ever since the civil rights events of the sixties, those social pressures are now for the most part illegal and so we get what we have here today. Multicultis have no clue when it comes to human nature and what makes people tick. Don't look for that to change anytime soon. Just remember, people like Hull are better than you because they care so much.
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posted on
06/24/2002 11:26:54 PM PDT
by
amstaff1
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