[Uncle Sham]

"The principle of holding the current position at all costs until reinforcements arrive - as opposed to deserting your posts or surrendering to the enemy. "

Jim, is a there a point at which sliding to the left can no longer be defined as "holding the current position"? If so, doesn't reaching this point require a redefining of just who or what the "enemy" really is?

[Jim Robinson]

C'mon, Uncle Sham, surely you are not going to suggest that President Bush is to the left of Gore or whomever the Democrats are going to put up next. Yes, Bush will do fine for his two terms and hopefully by then someone more conservative will be ready to run. If not, we're in a heap of trouble. But even then, not as much as we would be if we had allowed Gore in 2000 and then some other Democrat to follow him.