[Torie]

I thought the gun show thing was about applying the same strictures that apply to gun shops - sort of leveling the playing field. I don't see the applicability of the word "grab." There may be grabbing with respect to AW; I suppose regarding that it comes down to definitions. Nukes are AW's; grab them. Anthrax is an AW; grab it. Boozokas (sp)? Well, let's talk.

[lentulusgracchus]

Seems like you've swallowed the Klintoon/HCI propaganda about gun shows being a "loophole". A provision in law that says the law shall apply to this, because Congress wants it to, but not to that, because Congress wants it not to, is not a "loophole".

Private sales of firearms are not subject to the Brady law, by the will of Congress expressing the will of the people. It was dickered over for years. If anything, Brady needs replacing by the NRA "instant check" as soon as possible -- but the grabbers don't want that. They are wedded to waiting periods, because they know what every salesman knows, that delay can kill a sale.

Grabbers want to kill all sales of firearms, don't you understand? Whatever works against firearms sales, ownership, possession, or use -- they're for, and will fight tooth and nail for every incremental inconvenience to people exercising their rights. They're ideologues, and the idea that a people can be armed -- and potentially resist their omnipotent State -- is hateful to them.

Is any of that hard to understand? Or do you challenge the correctness of the vision?

[Dan from Michigan]

The gun show 'loophole' doesn't exist. All licensed dealers have to perform background checks.

The key is so called 'unlicensed dealer'. That's the media term. Never mind that being an unlicensed dealer is a major felony. The target is all private sales. That's what the hoopla over what a 'gun show' is, etc.

The term 'assault weapon' is a takeoff of 'assault rifle'. A true assault rifle is a military term for all guns that fire both semi and full auto. A class 3 license is required for a full auto. These so called 'assault weapons' are there to ban ugly looking guns that LOOK like these military rifles. My .30-06 deer rifle is more powerful than a AR-15(.223 caliber). Most AR-15's though are considered AW's though.(Flash suppressor, grip in front or back(forgot which one is illegal), more than 10 round magazines), etc.

It's simply a slippery slope until guns are banned. That's the agenda(VPC and CSGV publically call for it), the Joyce Foundation, Soros, etc funds both those 'extreme anti's' and the 'mainstream' groups like the Brady's. The Tides foundation(tied to McKelvey) also funds banners CSGV.

I know the agenda of these groups. I've been to a few of their meetings and most of this info comes straight from their own sources.

As for bazookas and nukes, those are not considered 'AW's', but weapons of mass destruction, and are in their own category.