You unilaterally attack my character and mental and emotional state, and then state that I am the one not being civil. Accuse the opponent of what you are doing: another Marxist tactic.
Let me put it plainly: the farm bill is European style socialism. The liberals won, the conservatives and Bush lost, period. You keep trying to dismiss this as politics, but the fact is you are trying to claim victory in defeat, and that defeat will make us victorious. And that makes you no different than the people you criticize.
This is about raw politics.
Your method of 'politics' is Bill Clinton style triangulation. It is do and say whatever it takes to remain in power. Except at least for Clinton rarely lost much, and he got alot of his agenda accomplished below the radar when he did. Bush walked away with NOTHING on the farm bill. He is walking away with NOTHING on immigration.
No, this is about reality. The laws of the universe, and the laws of economics could care less about shifting-state-of-flux politics. You do not create reality with politics. The farm bill as it is now will continue to expand and aggrevate the economic disassociation and disaggregation that are causing problems for farmers trying to make a living. It will subsidize overproduction, leading to more over production, leading to lower prices and more financial difficulties for farmers, leading to a vicious circle of farmers' dependence on the govt. Simple supply and demand. Utimately it will lead to the collapse of the farm economy. Unfortunately, politics can't change that reality. Or at least, most of us with our heads in reality don't think so.
I haven't lost any argument to you. You think liberals won on the farm bill and conservatives lost. I'm not as defeatist as you are and don't see it the way you do. I said, ... it doesn't fit the agenda of conservatism, but not everything in politics and governing does all the time.
>>>You unilaterally attack my character and mental and emotional state...
I wasn't attacking you personally. But I was questioning your rhetoric, your political state of mind and emotional outbursts. Damn right. If you make off the wall comments, expect to be called on it. And if you can't take the heat, stay away from the fire.