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To: Miss Marple; SANDNES
Sorry to be late replying, a day of sun and swimming sent me to bed at 8:30 last night. I wanted to address the compromise and incrementalism, many, including myself believe we have compromised ourselves out of existance.

In order for compromise to work conservatives must walk away from the table with something, we don't. We don't have anyone in office, and haven't since Reagan, that will fight for our side and demand something to take away from the table.

We all call the RINO's in office cowardly, spineless, they even proved that during the last Republican Revolution when they were in control. Now we are grasping at straws hoping for Republican Revolution II, and it will be a failure.

There are three reasons I am going to go ahead and vote in November, one is for you guys because it is so important to you, two, because if a Democrat takes the Presidency in 2004 it's better for partisan politics to continue, weak as it is from RINO's, and three, because I will find it interesting to see a Republican President, who hasn't been able to find his Veto Pen, other than to deny disabled vets, suddenly veto almost everything that comes across his desk. Mostly he will be able to bully the Repubs in Congress and the Senate not to cause a "rift" between the White House and them, a bad show for the public to observe, by not placing something in front of him that he will Veto. I see it all right here in my crystal ball.=o)

The speed with which things are going south demands action to alot of our minds. There are two roads to go that I can see as potentially successful, a devastating no show at the polls for Republicans, or marching on our respective state capitols and demanding that they take their power back from D.C. I prefer both tactics because I feel local government is far easier to control than Federal Government. We pay for State Governors, and Representatives, like England pays for the Royal Family, they serve no real function other than historical tradition and do nothing really but cost great expense.

I think even moderates can agree with the idea of much more power to States than to D.C., after all we are a Republic, or were, and State politics are easier to influence than Federal.

As far as the things Bush has done that you approve of overall, I have no idea what they are, no one will list them. Getting us out of Kyoto was good for corporations, and as an aside is good for workers, I don't know how I feel about this other plan that is to replace Kyoto, kind of stealth Kyoto, whereby each corporation is assigned points they can sell to each other in order to "say" they meet the requirements.

Getting us out of the Criminal Court is expedient and neccessary given the "Hate America" fad going on in the world. There is a thread "The Judge As Prosecuter: Two Days At The "Trial" Of Slobodan Milosevic", you might want to check it out, some guy SANDNES around post "50" is claiming there is a documentary showing US soliders massacring Taliban prisoners of war. A complete lie no doubt but to have stayed in that Court would open our military to great risk over every freaking rumor and scam they can come up with.

I'm not downing your support of Bush, even though I can't see it myself. I'm just saying conservatives need to do much better than him and fast. I think if he is successful in his bid to turn the Party hard left, no conservative will have a legitimate reason to go to the polls ever again. It takes alot of gall or evil for a man to take it upon himself to take the Republican Party for a socialist ride, and what that tells us is going on behind the scenes is something conservatives ignore at their own peril because we are incrementally disappearing.

1,955 posted on 06/24/2002 6:55:38 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
I posted a short list of things. There have been many posts which list all the things he has done, but for some people it is never enough.

You aren't even happy about the Kyoto decision, because it is "good for corporations." Well, that is your privilege, but in my opinion a healthy business environment is good for the economy.

I am not inclined to keep posting on this thread, as it seems to me an exercise in futility. You don't think President Bush is doing a good job. I do. We will just have to disagree.

1,956 posted on 06/24/2002 7:00:59 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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