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Pro-America rally, Sunday June 23, 11:00
Lee & Melanie, KSFO | 6/20/2002 | deeel-me-in

Posted on 06/20/2002 8:48:55 PM PDT by deeel-me-in

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1 posted on 06/20/2002 8:48:55 PM PDT by deeel-me-in
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To: deeel-me-in
I didn't see anything on their site, but bump anyhoo.
2 posted on 06/20/2002 9:22:42 PM PDT by martin_fierro
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To: deeel-me-in; American Preservative
I can't make it this Sunday, but here are MORE DETAILS!


March Against Terror
Sunday, June 23
San Francisco

March with thousands of fellow Americans who are proud to support Israel and America in the International Campaign Against Terrorism.

Rally at Civic Center Plaza at 11:00 am.
March begins 11:30 a.m. and ends at Justin Herman Plaza at approximately 12:30 pm

Sponsored by Grassroots for Israel
· American Israel Public Affairs Committee
· California Christian Committee for Israel
· Jewish Community Relations Council
· Jewish Community Federation of San Francisco, the Peninsula, Marin and Sonoma Counties
· Jewish War Veterans, Post 152
· Kstati, the largest Russian weekly newspaper published in San Francisco/Bay Area
· Schindler's Ark

For more information email:

Who is Grassroots for Israel?

We are Americans who are PROUD to support Israel!

As Americans we have been thirsting to show our support for Israel and the International Campaign Against Terrorism. We want to publicly express our support and be actively involved in activities to ensure Israel’s future.

· We support the International Campaign Against Terrorism
· We support the partnership between the United States and Israel to fight terrorism
· We recognize that Israel is on the frontlines of the campaign against terrorism
· We unconditionally support the right of the State of Israel to defend herself

3 posted on 06/20/2002 9:28:05 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: martin_fierro
More details BUMP (see post #3)
4 posted on 06/20/2002 9:30:43 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture; deeel-me-in; All; *San FRancisco; GodBlessAmerica; flagbrigade; Cool Guy; ...
Thanks CCC! : )


d-m-i, I had pinged people about the rally/march within another thread - click your "My Comments." But thanks for starting this thread. : )

Rally/March reminder ping! Please see post #3.


All - please note - THE MARCH STARTS AT THE SAN FRANCISCO CIVIC CENTER PLAZA (across from City Hall.)

5 posted on 06/21/2002 9:19:17 AM PDT by American Preservative
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To: American Preservative
Also...that's where Farmer's Market is this Sunday, cherries, nectarines, peaches....some really good produce down there and there's a couple of bread people too. So march, and also bring a backpack for the food you'll get at the FM!
6 posted on 06/21/2002 11:28:34 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: grlfrnd; All
The "Heart of the City" Farmer's Market is really at UN Plaza (not Civic Center Plaza) near Market St. between 7th and 8th streets - about a block and a half away from Civic Center Plaza. The Sunday Market opens at 7AM.
Good tip grlfrnd. : )


BTW, here's some info on Grassroots for Israel

7 posted on 06/21/2002 12:49:20 PM PDT by American Preservative
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To: American Preservative
DH and I go every week. Good deals and great food :) So, though he doesn't want to *go* this Sunday...I'll try and get him over to CCP as well as shopping for us.
8 posted on 06/21/2002 2:59:44 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: deeel-me-in; CounterCounterCulture; Cool Guy
Out of town camping this weekend, but will be supporting you all in spirit. I'm up to the mountains for a much needed week of vacation- hiking, fishing... If I run into any liberals/terrorist supporters up there, I will provide my own personal FReep.

9 posted on 06/21/2002 10:28:27 PM PDT by thunderdome
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Here's an article on the June 23 rally/march -

Jews, Christians hold rally, march
Pro-Israel supporters stage S.F. march

David Parrish, Chronicle Staff Writer Monday, June 24, 2002

A peaceful midday rally and march Sunday through downtown San Francisco served as a reminder to tourists, residents and other onlookers that serious issues such as terrorism and the Middle East conflict do not go away even when the city is enjoying one of its postcard-perfect days.

An estimated 3,000 Israeli supporters gathered under breezy, cobalt blue skies at 11 a.m. at the Civic Center Plaza, waving placards and shouting their support for Israel while speakers denounced terrorism and suicide bombers. Around noon they started their hourlong march down Market Street to Justin Herman Plaza, near the Ferry Building.

"We came to support Israel," said Riva Gavartin, an immigrant from Latvia who now lives in Palo Alto. "Israel has the right to exist."

The rally and march was organized by Grassroots for Israel and was billed as an anti-terrorism demonstration from a cross section of the Bay Area residents, both Jews and Christians.

"We want to send a loud and clear message that all Americans are united against terrorism, and that the U.S. needs to support Israel because they are on the front line in the battle against terrorism," said Jeff Halbrecht, co- founder of Grassroots for Israel.

With dozens of Israeli and American flags being waved, the march strung out over nearly five city blocks and was under constant police escort. The mostly middle-aged marchers engaged in anti-terrorism and pro-Israeli chants, and steered clear of direct attacks on Palestinians.

While there were a smattering of isolated hecklers along the route, mainly aroused street people, the only organized counter demonstration was from a group of about 40 who bore signs saying, "Jews for a just peace." Police kept the counter protesters away from the marchers.

"We are against terrorism, but we also think that what Israel is doing is terrorism," said Marisa Handler, a leader with the counter demonstrators and a former freelance writer for The Chronicle. ''We don't think violence is the route to peace."

Several of the marchers said they had given up part of their weekend because they felt helpless in the wake of a string of suicide bombings.

"We don't feel we can do anything," said Jessica Goldman, a San Francisco resident. "It's kind of difficult to be an American Jew."

For Gail Steele, a member of the Alameda County's Board of Supervisors, and her daughter, this was their first rally and march.

"I feel in Alameda County you can't speak out, there is an underlining feeling that Israel is wrong," Steele said. "I feel the prejudice -- I haven't felt that my whole life."

Steele said she like others marchers felt it was time to take a stand, and show her support for Israel.

E-mail David Parrish at

10 posted on 06/24/2002 9:04:11 AM PDT by American Preservative
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To: *San FRancisco; GodBlessAmerica; Cool Guy; CounterCounterCulture; deeel-me-in; Golden Gate; ...
Please see post #10.

FReepers on scene - American Preservative, nastypumps, and two FRiends. Anyone FRelse?

Observations - Since this was billed as a march against Terror, I thought, finally, a place for coming together to express outrage and anger vocally after the many months of being "pacified" and "being taught" to be "tolerant" from the President on down. However, upon arriving at the Civic Center, it was obvious this too, was not going to be. Why? 'Cause the music being played over the loudspeakers was of the "Kumbaya" sort, and, imo, that was the tone of the march to be.

As I didn't really hear the speakers at the rally, I don't really know what kind of passion they spoke with, but, the march was relatively mild, imo (and I was towards the back, so, I don't know how it was up front.) A couple of guys had bullhorns, but, the chants I recall were, "Down with terror!" "Peace! Now!" "Teach your children not to hate!" (Oy vey.)

There was one group of about 30 Lefties at the Civic Center Plaza, on the plaza, near the rally. The police finally moved them aways away, but they were still on the plaza. (I wonder if the march organizers had a permit for the whole plaza, 'cause in the past, when we pro-Americans would counter the Lefties at the Plaza, we were told they (the Lefties) had a permit for the whole plaza and we would have to be across the street and were not allowed on the Plaza.)

When the march got on Market street, there was another group - they were about 10, mostly Arab. A couple of "woman of cover" (literally, head to toe in black dress) and some of the guys dressed in military fatigue pants. THEY had a bullhorn and used it til the batteries ran out (: )) (...but, then they got some more.) Loudly ranting, "FREE FREE PALESTINE!!" and "Allah Akbar!" "1,2,3,4 We don't want your Nazi-Racist War!" (Ah, the Lefties taught them well!), they followed us down Market St, blaring to all. A few people yelled at them every so often. Police on bikes were used as a moving barricade. (There may have a confrontation at the end of the march, but, I was away from it.) Some marchers tried singing "peace" songs to counter them. (Can I say, "Oy Vey" again?)

The march ended at Justin Herman Plaza, singing the Israeli and American national anthems.

Maybe I missed seeing an "!"in the title and THAT energy (oldlizzie, d-m-i, CCC, and CG you were missed! ; )), but, hey, it was good first major effort by Grassroots, imo. After all, this is San Francisco - so to see American and Israeli flags and 3 thousand people marching down Market Street, had to be "fantastic" to some!

11 posted on 06/24/2002 11:17:35 AM PDT by American Preservative
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To: American Preservative
Sorry I couldn't make it--I was at a wedding. Good work, though!
12 posted on 06/24/2002 3:27:20 PM PDT by jrherreid
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To: American Preservative
Thanks for the ping. Pretty good coverage on KTVU ch.2 last night. Will be away to the Western States 100 this weekend, but am available the rest of the summer. Hope to meet a few of you fellow FReepers.
13 posted on 06/24/2002 3:33:37 PM PDT by WSGilcrest
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To: American Preservative
Was great to be there with you & our 2 brave FRiends from other events. You, in particular, work hard to get the word out at your own expense! Thanks, again, for the flag.
I could not have made it all the way down Market St. without you guys. But jeepers, FReepers, "A.P." you are so right about the problems. There should have been more punch--I mean that figuratively, of course :)--and less pacification of crude, lewd people who are truly vicious in their anti-USA & anti-Semitism...was very glad (and this is unusual for a Gay person--conservative or not--to have a chance to say) that there were so many fundamentalist Christians with us. They were standing/marching bravely with Jews all the way.
I am ashamed of my fellow Jewish/Jewish-heritage Marinites who always stay home in San Rafael, Mill Valley & Tiburon, etc., to sip their "Soy Half-caf'Lattes" & chat about all the usual nonsense when 80+ year old Russian Jews (my heritage, I'm proud to say), who know a thing or two about state sanctioned anti-religious terror, took to the ugly* streets with signs proclaimimg "Proud To Be An American!"
Whatever the problems, though, great men & women & young people of every background did the work each American should be doing for themselves & those they love.
*Speaking of "ugly" what are those people in San Francisco thinking???? They have allowed the city to become & remain a cesspool of filth, urine, vomit, and disease. But the entrepreneurial spirit is alive and well, nevertheless...we had a polite "street person" stand outside the elaborate green kiosk pay toilets (tres, tres Parisian don't you recall?) & cage quarters out of our anxious hands so he could slip a slug into the slot to open the door! Only needed 1 slug as he could hit "coin return" each time. Now, there is a man who should be running the place!
Had to laugh...but not too hard as I had to wait 30 minutes for my turn.
G-d bless you all! Off to NYC (hometown) next weekend for month or so & will visit Ground Zero around 7/4 & offer a prayer for all of us--even the fools in Marin.
Regards, "nasty..."

14 posted on 06/24/2002 4:42:45 PM PDT by nastypumps
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To: American Preservative
I was there yesterday and wondered if any other Freepers were there. I looked around but didn't see any signs. I did see a Republican voter registration table, near the front.

I noticed the whole "Peace" thing also. My impression was that these people realized that the only way to have real peace and freedom is to fight for it. They seemed to understand peace isn't surrendering to the bullies, as the leftists like to imply. I did have a problem with singing the Lenninist song "Give Peace A Chance" at the end.

I for one was really amazed at the size of the crowd. It was good to finally be in a crowd which outnumbered Osama's and Yassir's little helpers. A few of us did some counters in San Rafael and it seemed we were always outnumbered, but got more honks and thumbs up than the other side.

I did notice the bullhorns and the people of cover (plus the couple scraggly, hippie types who looked like they hadn't had a bath in a month.) I walked by one of the Bart/Muni terminals and saw some of them yelling some of the most obscene and violent vitriol, followed up by the "We don't want your racist war". (BARF) When I heard that, I did yell at them, "Shut up you Nazis".

Channel 2's coverage was pretty good. Channel 4's (KRON) was terribly one-sided. The Chronicle this morning had a brief mention with a photo on B2. Yet, it seems the Chronicle never hesitates to give half the front page to 300 people who burn flags and spew anti-American rhetoric. It would be great to have a big pro-America rally in S.F. also.

15 posted on 06/24/2002 7:31:54 PM PDT by stratman1969
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To: All
Didn't make it but based on the news footage I saw, impressive. Even the lefty Bay Area media could not spin this into some "minor" protest. I also loved the interviews with marchers. To see all those American and Israeli flags, instead of the typical red and black banners of "typical" protests in the Gramscian capital of the planet, what a sight!
16 posted on 06/24/2002 8:00:56 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD
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To: American Preservative; nastypumps
Thanks for the reports. Wish I coulda been there.

Saw TV coverage on NBC3 (KNTV 11) and KRON (Channel 4) during their 11pm reports (could have been on other channels, but can't watch four stations at the same time). Same ass-clown on both broadcasts spewed and spinned about occupation yada yada yada.

17 posted on 06/24/2002 9:16:06 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: jrherreid
Long time no hear, jr! (Hey, was that wedding yours?) : )

Hope to see ya out at another FReep sometime.

18 posted on 06/24/2002 9:42:19 PM PDT by American Preservative
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To: WSGilcrest
Welcome. Don't know of any upcoming FReeps at the moment, but, there's the FResno rally/picnic in a few weeks. : )
19 posted on 06/24/2002 9:51:17 PM PDT by American Preservative
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To: nastypumps
Great post, nastypumps! : ) Good to see you there! Have a great time in NY, and will look forward to your report about Ground Zero. Stay safe.
20 posted on 06/24/2002 9:57:28 PM PDT by American Preservative
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