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DENMARK TOLD TO CHANGE LAWS BY CEDAW COMMITTEE, RAISING FEARS IN US
Catholic Family & Human Rights Institute ^ | June 21, 2002 | Austin Ruse, C-Fam

Posted on 06/20/2002 2:04:45 PM PDT by madfly

A familiar refrain of proponents of the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW) is that US ratification of the controversial UN document would not result in significant changes in US law. Since the United States already recognizes the equal status of women, they say, US ratification is necessary solely to bolster the standing of the Convention in the rest of the world. For instance, Senator Joseph Biden (D-DE), a CEDAW supporter, said at last week's Senate CEDAW hearing that it is "highly, highly, highly unlikely" that the Convention would have any important domestic impact.

In a June 18 article, New York Times columnist Nicholas D. Kristof repeated this point, stating that "frankly, the treaty has almost nothing to do with American women, who already enjoy the rights the treaty supports…Instead, it has everything to do with the half of the globe where to be female is to be persecuted until, often, death."

But the most recent examination of Denmark by the CEDAW Committee seems to contradict these arguments. At meetings beginning on June 12, the Committee concluded that even Denmark's extremely progressive laws and social policies were not sufficient, and that Denmark would need to make substantial changes in order to comply with the Convention.

According to a UN press release, one CEDAW expert asked "How often had the Convention been invoked in the country's courts?" Another expert pointed out "that Denmark's Constitution contained no specific provision on discrimination against women…It was important to fully integrate the country's domestic legislation with the Convention."

One Committee expert showed concern that, "although Danish women…were now allowed employment in all ranks of the…Armed Services, even if that involved direct participation in military operations or combat," women had not yet "reached the top level in the military."

A Committee expert also stated that "In order to protect women engaged in prostitution, the tendency should be to penalize those engaged in pimping even more heavily." To allay this concern, a Danish representative reported that "in 1999 the Parliament had amended the criminal code to decriminalize prostitution and passive pimping."

One expert wondered how Danish families divided household duties and chores. "It was gratifying to know that fathers were increasingly taking care of babies," but the expert "also wanted to know how they participated in bringing up older children and shared in housework." In response, a Danish delegate assured the Committee that "continuous monitoring was being carried out" on fathers and their household activities.

Wendy Wright, senior policy director at Concerned Women for America, told the Friday Fax that such statements by the CEDAW Committee show that it does not seek basic equality, but the radical transformation of society, and that it would make the same kinds of demands on the US, if it ratified CEDAW. "If even Denmark doesn't satisfy the CEDAW Committee and must change its constitution, then surely no country's actions will appease these 'experts' on genderless feminism," she said.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biden; cedaw; cwa; genderlessfeminism; pimping; prostitution; un; untreaties; uslaw
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1 posted on 06/20/2002 2:04:45 PM PDT by madfly
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2 posted on 06/20/2002 2:09:34 PM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
Senator Joseph Biden (D-DE), a CEDAW supporter

This reminds me of what it must have been like in DC when the 19th Amendment was being debated. Any career politician would have been a total fool to oppose it, alienating half the voters in his coming bid for re-election.

3 posted on 06/20/2002 2:13:22 PM PDT by newgeezer
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To: madfly
is "highly, highly, highly unlikely" that the Convention would have any important domestic impact.

Aside from making the UN the good guys and men the bad guys, and a side from further interfering in the private contracts between men and women. CEDAW contains a definite enforcement and jurisdictional invasion factor.

4 posted on 06/20/2002 2:13:49 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: madfly
Senator Joseph Biden (D-DE), a CEDAW supporter, said at last week's Senate CEDAW hearing that it is "highly, highly, highly unlikely" that the Convention would have any important domestic impact.

Just like when Senator Kennedy said in the late sixties that it would be highly, highly, highly unlikely that relaxing resitictions in immigration poliy would have any affect on US demographics...

The old saw is so true: You can tell when a politition is lying when you see their lips moving.

5 posted on 06/20/2002 2:16:17 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: madfly
The main purpose of CEDAW is the same as any other UN treaty, TO ENRICH THE THIRD WORLD AND EUROPEAN BUREAUCRATS WHO ADMINISTER IT! Nothing more, nothing less. They make rulings that are based on the bribes, payoffs and kick backs that will be generated. An extreme ruling will generate revenue from those who want variances.

Additionally, the UN is the victory of the socialism that the communists were not able to pull off. An elite group of unelected people who run everything from a central location but earn fantastic sums for doing so. It is the priesthood that wants to run everything.

When will some foundation fund observation of these UN crooks as they live and really prosper on the upper east side of NYC? Not talking about the diplomats who serve at the pleasure of their respective governments, I'm talking about the UN bureacrats who answer to no one.

6 posted on 06/20/2002 2:17:08 PM PDT by Tacis
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To: madfly
One expert wondered how Danish families divided household duties and chores. "It was gratifying to know that fathers were increasingly taking care of babies," but the expert "also wanted to know how they participated in bringing up older children and shared in housework." In response, a Danish delegate assured the Committee that "continuous monitoring was being carried out" on fathers and their household activities.

How nice. Continuous montoring to insure that men behave the way the "authorities" want him to.

In his own home.

7 posted on 06/20/2002 2:19:05 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: madfly
"In order to protect women engaged in prostitution, the tendency should be to penalize those engaged in pimping even more heavily."

,,, until womyn reach the top level in pimping.

8 posted on 06/20/2002 2:21:14 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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9 posted on 06/20/2002 2:24:16 PM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
"In order to protect women engaged in prostitution, the tendency should be to penalize those engaged in pimping even more heavily." To allay this concern, a Danish representative reported that "in 1999 the Parliament had amended the criminal code to decriminalize prostitution and passive pimping."

One expert wondered how Danish families divided household duties and chores. "It was gratifying to know that fathers were increasingly taking care of babies," but the expert "also wanted to know how they participated in bringing up older children and shared in housework." In response, a Danish delegate assured the Committee that "continuous monitoring was being carried out" on fathers and their household activities.

Wendy Wright, senior policy director at Concerned Women for America, told the Friday Fax that such statements by the CEDAW Committee show that it does not seek basic equality, but the radical transformation of society, and that it would make the same kinds of demands on the US, if it ratified CEDAW. "If even Denmark doesn't satisfy the CEDAW Committee and must change its constitution, then surely no country's actions will appease these 'experts' on genderless feminism," she said.
You've GOT to be kidding! First off, they've got no damn business poking their noses into how I'm raising my children! And it's none of their damn business as to how much I'm involved in raising my children and doing housework.

I'm damn insulted that they've got it in their mind to get into "continous monitoring" on fathers and their household activities.

It figures that a pantywaist like Joe Biden would support this crap! The UN can take this CEDAW crap, rotate it sideways and stick it where the sun don't shine!

10 posted on 06/20/2002 2:25:17 PM PDT by mhking
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To: madfly
Thanks. I'm on Austin's list, too. He's a dear friend. Did you hear Dr. Laura attacking CEDAW yesterday, and telling her listeners to call their Congressmen?
11 posted on 06/20/2002 2:27:55 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: general_re
,,, when you've finished that pile of ironing, washed the dishes and been to the supermarket, you can read this.
12 posted on 06/20/2002 2:28:29 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: madfly
Committee show that it does not seek basic equality, but the radical transformation of society

The liberals are getting us in trouble trying to dictate their agenda to the world!

Mokhtar Lamani, a Moroccan diplomat who represents the 53-nation Organization of Islamic Conferences at the United Nations said liberal Western activists and governments had offended the religious and cultural sensitivities of Islamic countries by proposing that a final conference declaration include explicit references to the need to protect prostitutes, intravenous drug users and "men who have sex with men" from contracting AIDS.

The liberals have to stop ordering the world to obey them. No nation wants them and their agenda!! They are hate filled and oppressive.
The world needs to tell them "no!"

13 posted on 06/20/2002 2:30:11 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: Brian Allen
,,, any way of finding out how many US tax dollars go to supporting this segment of UN activity? It sounds a little Albanian to me; at the very least, it's not Constitutionally inclined.
14 posted on 06/20/2002 2:32:37 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: madfly
The liberals want "choice" of lifestyles for them, but those who do not join them must be punished for not living by THEIR "choice."

The world is not going to put up with them much longer. The rubberband of "Forced political correctness and the thought police" is stretching to it's breaking point.

15 posted on 06/20/2002 2:39:14 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: lady lawyer
Yes, I've seen your name, Ms. Balmforth (former director of the World Family Policy Center at Brigham Young University) come up on searches I've done for him and seen how hard you both have been working to spread the ugly truth about this treaty. Thanks so much to you and folks like you. I have no idea how I started getting his Friday Fax, but that's how I first learned of the Treaty.

No, I didn't hear Dr. Laura. Good for her. I didn't used to be a fan, but I would vote for her over Hillary. It seems it has come to I am for anyone against the UN, and against anyone who is not for the Constitution.
16 posted on 06/20/2002 3:14:07 PM PDT by madfly
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To: mhking
There needs to be some sort of grassroots movement to throw the UN out of our country before they undermind it.
17 posted on 06/20/2002 3:32:55 PM PDT by Domestic Church
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To: madfly
I wonder if Dr. Laura realizes that it's the Senators that need to be contacted, since they're the ones who choose whether to ratify treaties.
18 posted on 06/20/2002 4:08:20 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: madfly
Death to the UN and its supporters.
19 posted on 06/20/2002 4:25:01 PM PDT by Noumenon
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To: madfly
This is NOT just scare-tactics. Internat'l treaties are already being used to attack the death penalty in this country. Treaties are a very high form of law. parsy.
20 posted on 06/20/2002 4:29:58 PM PDT by parsifal
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