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(This is a general address - it was just simpler to append the last post than start scratch....) A whole lotta' yadda yadda here....Lots of quotes from founders on both sides of the divide, but, curiously, no one here has asked the questions ( & I do not have the impression the questions remain unasked due to their highly rhetorical nature...),that lies at the heart of the entire debate: were the anti-federalists correct in their suspicions of the federalists' motives; were they correct in their predictions of the adverse implications that would ensue if the federalist agenda were to be adopted; were they correct that appending a bill of rights to the constitution would prevent the adverse implications...? The answers are yes,yes, & no. The Lincoln-worshippers fall squarely ito the federalist camp, and without irony, fully support consolidated, centralized, 'federal' power (the exact opposite of what 'federal republic' is supposed to mean... but we are all used to dishonest appropriations of terms & their definitions by now, right?). Its also amusing that so many of this ilk populate a forum which calls itself 'free republic'...is the forum merely hosting the bloviated blather of liberty's adversaries, or is it yet another nest of neo-con connivers?

By the way, Colt .45, I like that CSA flag insert. How would I go about adding my favorite, the battle flag, to my posts?

"Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel about Walt."

Actually, I have considered that but have chosen to hold back. I'm basically a kind-hearted person and don't like to hurt people's feelings, not even those of people like Walt.