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1 posted on 06/20/2002 9:21:03 AM PDT by max_rpf
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I feel it's imperative to try and think in the most diabolical and evil mode we can if we're going to thwart these kind of things. After all, normal civilized people don't imagine flying an aircraft into an office tower as a default behavior, at least not before 9/11. These animals are working from an entirely different paradigm. Worst case thinking is required. It's become obvious that we have jihadists in our midst that are actively plotting mass terror. 9/11 was clearly not a one-off. Beyond chilling.

It's too bad the businessman didn't think to try the "I'll have it ready tomorrow" concept and call the feds as was suggested on this thread, but I'm sure the incident caught him off guard to a large degree. Unless we are constantly in terror mode we aren't expecting these kind of incidents.

One suggestion I have for any business that an owner deems likely to attract these barbarians for material to commit terrorism would be the acquisition of a simple and inexpensive video security system and a VCR, perhaps a time lapse model designed for long period recording. Either that or use a very long tape on slow speed record that can be reused every few days. At least then if a similar incident occurs there might be a visual record of the perp. Security cameras can be obtained that are disguised as wall clocks and other devices that would never tip off a "customer" that they are being taped. At least then the authorities would have something more concrete than a simple description. The cost is not that high and really insignificant when compared to the good it might do.

Just a thought.

Stay alert and just a little paranoid for good measure.

86 posted on 06/20/2002 11:57:32 AM PDT by mitchbert
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NYC is the liberal mecca. Don't even go near there if you can avoid it.
Mokhtar Lamani, a Moroccan diplomat who represents the 53-nation Organization of Islamic Conferences at the United Nations said liberal Western activists and governments had offended the religious and cultural sensitivities of Islamic countries by proposing that a final conference declaration include explicit references to the need to protect prostitutes, intravenous drug users and "men who have sex with men" from contracting AIDS.
It apprears Muslims hate liberals. Go figure!
97 posted on 06/20/2002 1:31:53 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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It's just flat-out scary to think we are being attacked from within during these insane years of PC!!! When Clintoon was reelected, it became most clear to me how truely apathetic our nation had become. It's even more scary to think of what atrocity will have to occur in order for the US to take offensive action. I am sooooo damn frustrated with the apathy! It makes me feel like the folks here on FR are the only proactive clear thinking people around.
Regards to all,
Woodstock
106 posted on 06/20/2002 2:23:32 PM PDT by Woodstock
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Too bad the shop owner didn't quietly lay these two stiffs out in his hearst replica.=o)
111 posted on 06/20/2002 2:55:04 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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"The owner of the shop became suspicious when the men tried to pay cash, and the pair fled without leaving any identification, the source told the News."

Maybe the owner should have lead them on a bit until they could be identified and investigated.
112 posted on 06/20/2002 3:51:28 PM PDT by Jorge
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Simple solution BAN middle easterners from coming to the United States and deport the others. This touchy feely political correct crap is going to get more people killed.
120 posted on 06/20/2002 4:47:32 PM PDT by bok
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I tell you the truth, if these are the best terrorists they can throw at us then we are all gonna live for a thousand years.

Don't they know that paying in cash is a dead giveaway?

Don't believe me? Walk into your bank or local car dealer with a briefcase full of cash and see if you don't get a visit from fedgov.

127 posted on 06/20/2002 5:15:55 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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This is just more proof that we are not safe until these freaks are removed from our society; not after they get caught trying to pull something off, but right now.
135 posted on 06/20/2002 8:48:46 PM PDT by sixmil
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This possibility has been spoken of before therefore there must be continuing intelligence that they intend to do something like this. We must all be very much aware of our surroundings at all times. It is hard to do, the world seems the same out there, but it is not.
140 posted on 06/20/2002 10:35:06 PM PDT by ladyinred
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