Posted by billybudd to Militiaman7
On Jun 20 1:40 AM #2 of 12
I'm not big on government increasing funding on any of its programs, but it is ironic, Bush funding all kinds of foreign aid to Africa, but refusing to increase retirement benefits for our veterans.
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Posted by mrsmith to Militiaman7
On Jun 20 1:42 AM #3 of 12
" senior advisers would recommend that the president veto the bill "
Bush hasn't said he will veto the bill.
I think they will compromise on the House version giving full pay to those 60% or more disabled.
And rightfully so- this system has long been a disgrace!
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Posted by MissAmericanPie to Militiaman7
On Jun 20 1:42 AM #4 of 12
Oh I see, NOW he finds his veto pen.
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Posted by Militiaman7 to billybudd
On Jun 20 1:48 AM #5 of 12
It is ironic. Now it can be corrected and only Bush is in the way.
ps: It isn't an increase in retirement benefits. Its paying Retired Disabled Vets their pension which they earned for 20 years or more of service.
By the way this retirement pay has been budgeted every year by DOD and is paid for in the defense budget, but they used the money for the pensions of disabled vets for something else. Ask you congressperson if this isn't the truth.
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Posted by ArneFufkin to Militiaman7
On Jun 20 1:53 AM #6 of 12
What is 60% disability? Who measures that? What are your current benefits and what is your % disability?
How much are you receiving a month now, and how much will you receive a month if this bill passes?
What is your total compensation in pension and disability a month right now?
I'm curious about context here. Thanks.
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Posted by Militiaman7 to ArneFufkin
On Jun 20 2:07 AM #7 of 12
You can find all the info you ask for at: Department of Veterans Affairs
More information on Concurrent Reciept at: Uniformed Service Disabled Retirees
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Posted by ArneFufkin to Militiaman7
On Jun 20 2:09 AM #8 of 12
A couple more questions. These disabilities ... if a Ranger blows his knee out in jump training and has arthritis 20 years later ... is that a disability? What if he's in a vehicle collision and he has chronic neck injuries? The emotional signal is that Bush is turning his back on those injured in battle. Are all these disabled veterans suffering battle disability? If a cadet slips in the latrine and lands on his hip .... is that considered a disability 20 years later? If somebody retires at 41 after 20 years service, and a disability evolves say at 54 ... what is the process to ensure that his injuries weren't suffered after his service?
Whose watching our money here? My cynical reaction is that EVERYBODY's going to come away 60+% disabled.
My concern: The State Workers Comp programs are a corrupt fraud. Everyone is disabled. Everyone gets a check. Nobody is told they aren't hurting. The workers comp lawyers and chiros and rehab consultants are all lunching regularly together. It's a complete scam, I know it because my girlfriend at the time worked for a rehab consultant and she quit in disgust. It's killing businesses here.
I am VERY suspicious of this thing.
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Posted by ArneFufkin to Militiaman7
On Jun 20 2:10 AM #9 of 12
I'd like you to describe YOUR situation, sir. You came out yelling and villifying the President's position ... YOU tell me about the system.
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Posted by Militiaman7 to ArneFufkin
On Jun 20 2:24 AM #10 of 12
How dare you question my disability. I've had to prove it over and over again to countless doctors, bureaucrats, and I'm not about to do it again. Especially to you.
Your questions and attitude show nothing but contempt for the honorable service of all disabled veterans.
For your information veterans disabilities have to be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to be service connected.
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Posted by Republican Wildcat to Militiaman7; Admin Moderator
On Jun 20 2:42 AM #11 of 12
There's nothing in this article that says the President is threatening to veto the bill, only that advisors would recommend it. Your title is a gross deviation from the original title regardless.
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Posted by Militiaman7 to Republican Wildcat
On Jun 20 2:45 AM #12 of 12
The Senate on Wednesday defied a White House threat that President Bush will use his first veto against a $393 billion defense bill if Congress extends full retirement pay to disabled veterans.
This says it all.
For more info on Concurrent Reciept at: Uniformed Service Disabled Retirees